Potential additions for next year at SF/PF, PF/C

[Handlogten's Heros]

I don't necessarily disagree with this, although we were 13th this year with Conley starting 41/72 games. I'm just saying it's virtually guaranteed that Bogdanovic starts every game he plays because it's just not how the NBA works to bring in a guy as your major free agent signing, have him make a huge impact, and then turn around and bring him off the bench the next year.

If we were going to change the starting lineup, I would rather tell Joe that it's going to be him getting demoted and get him and Quin working all offseason on finding a way for Joe to do better off the bench. I am more worried about Joe's age than Mike's at this point... I don't think we're getting 2017-18 Ingles again.

I mean when Joe started he put up almost exactly the same numbers as 2017-18 Joe. Defensively he has slowed down.

 

[NAOS]

I don't necessarily disagree with this, although we were 13th this year with Conley starting 41/72 games. I'm just saying it's virtually guaranteed that Bogdanovic starts every game he plays because it's just not how the NBA works to bring in a guy as your major free agent signing, have him make a huge impact, and then turn around and bring him off the bench the next year.

If we were going to change the starting lineup, I would rather tell Joe that it's going to be him getting demoted and get him and Quin working all offseason on finding a way for Joe to do better off the bench. I am more worried about Joe's age than Mike's at this point... I don't think we're getting 2017-18 Ingles again.

13th is almost precisely average. And should we expect more from Conley and Joe next year?

You can’t have Conley as the tip of the spear of your defense. And if you shift him away from the primary ball handler, then you’re either shifting Mitchell to the more burdensome defensive assignment, or you’re shifting him onto bigger wings and moving Royce down to defend the PG (and thus leaving Conley and Mitchell way under-sized at their posts). You don’t want any of this.

 

[Jazz Fusion]

He has great hair.

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[Cptgrnlngs22]

Maybe Conleys stock will rise with his playoff play and we can get more for him cause I’d rather have another big wing like Harris or millsap than conley. Detroit May do a sign and trade with wood too. Idk. Something to give us more size and defense.


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[Handlogten's Heros]

Maybe Conleys stock will rise with his playoff play and we can get more for him cause I’d rather have another big wing like Harris or millsap than conley. Detroit May do a sign and trade with wood too. Idk. Something to give us more size and defense.


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If you want Harris Philly would pack his bags for him. I bet you could get two firsts if you wanted to do a straight swap of Mike for Tobias. That contract is a problem for them.

 

[Friend2bees]

I mean when Joe started he put up almost exactly the same numbers as 2017-18 Joe. Defensively he has slowed down.

You're right, the offensive numbers actually are a lot closer to 17-18 than I thought they were when looking only at his starts this year. It looks a lot worse on his basketball reference page with the whole season lumped together.

I would agree that his defense has slipped. But that would be another point towards bringing Joe off the bench, right? If we want to bring in a better defender at one of the forward spots, the starting lineup gets pretty crowded.

Mitchell and Gobert are absolute locks to start no matter what. If we bring in a defensive minded forward to start, then there would be two starting spots left for Conley, O'Neale, Ingles, and Bogdanovic to compete for. I think Bogdanovic would be the other forward even without the locker room politics aspect. He's better on offense than Ingles at pretty much everything besides pick and roll, he's more athletic, and the defensive gap between him and Ingles is probably shrinking as Ingles gets older. We would also have a new defensive forward to help in this situation. Maybe you would keep Ingles in the starting lineup then and play him at SG. I was initially thinking that Conley had more to offer, but as you pointed out Joe's offense was still pretty good as a starter.

 

[LoPo]

If you want Harris Philly would pack his bags for him. I bet you could get two firsts if you wanted to do a straight swap of Mike for Tobias. That contract is a problem for them.

There is already chatter that Embiid wants out, GS will target Embiid or Simmons with #2, unrest, etc.

Tobias was a good get for them. Tobias AND Horford was so dumb. Embiid and Horford would never work at Horford's number. I think a team built around Simmons, Tobias, Horford and athleticism could work.

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[NAOS]

If you want Harris Philly would pack his bags for him. I bet you could get two firsts if you wanted to do a straight swap of Mike for Tobias. That contract is a problem for them.

I’m listening...

 

[NUMBERICA]

I do think Mario would be much better in Utah than Portland. I'd certainly take him on a minimum deal over Davis.

I'd take anyone on a minimum deal over Davis and his deal. Quite literally.

 

[NUMBERICA]

There is already chatter that Embiid wants out, GS will target Embiid or Simmons with #2, unrest, etc.

Tobias was a good get for them. Tobias AND Horford was so dumb. Embiid and Horford would never work at Horford's number. I think a team built around Simmons, Tobias, Horford and athleticism could work.

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Except Horford and Tobias aren't athletic.

I kinda got where Philly was going with their moves this offseason but my gut-feeling ("what the ****?") proved accurate. They should've kept Butler and Tobias and moved Simmons for an efficient/low-usage PG.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I’m listening...

Same. At least under the assumption we can turn Bojan into less longterm salary, a decent scorer that's more well-rounded, or both. I think he'd be a just-about perfect fit here. The defense isn't great, but it's better than Bojan just like every other skill besides pure scoring ability.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I’m listening...

Same. At least under the assumption we can turn Bojan into less longterm salary, a decent scorer that's more well-rounded, or both. I think he'd be a just-about perfect fit here. The defense isn't great, but it's better than Bojan just like every other skill besides pure scoring ability.

I'm not sure it is currently an upgrade over Bojan and the salary is just too much. Bojan is a better shooter and I think he will age really well.

3 year and 57M for Bojan or 4 years and 149M for Tobias? Imma stick with Bojan. The picks we'd get are nice... but we could get picks cheaper than that.

I think Tobias is better than he showed as are most players in Philly because that team is toxic right now... I just don't see the rebounding being that much of a bonus and he is not meaningfully better on defense... if at all.