Game Thread August 30, 2020: Nuggets at Jazz - Game 6

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think we should have built under the thinking that DM is more of a PG and we should get bigger guards and wings to pair with him. We are two small on the outside to build a dominant defense.

I mean, the Jazz got Bojan who isnt playing. Conley has been fugging amazing for us in this series.

The big issue (other than Bojan being injured) is that Jeff Green and Ed Davis absolutely busted. Getting Conley was absolutely 100% the right move even though they overpaid.

 

[jom2003]

That would make too much sense. Snyder won't do that.

it hardly make a difference at this point. both are G-leaguers, not game changers. not a lot coach can do at this point. not with this current roster

 

[jom2003]

I mean, the Jazz got Bojan who isnt playing. Conley has been fugging amazing for us in this series.

The big issue (other than Bojan being injured) is that Jeff Green and Ed Davis absolutely busted. Getting Conley was absolutely 100% the right move even though they overpaid.

Conley hasn't played bad but he is far from "fugging amazing". or else he should be dropping 30+ and we'd have won G5 or G6.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It really does hurt that Ingles is having another horrendous shooting playoffs (outside of the 1st two games). I thought covid break might help him with fatigue from the season, but I guess he's is emotionally down in the dumps being away from his family. I think the lack of crowd motivation has hurt his game as well. Dude really thrives off the crowd, both talking **** to him and pumping him up.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, if the argument is Morgan needs to get TB's 10 mpg, then sure. But even then I still worry about Denver just dominating the paint against us in that case. TB fugging sucks on offense, but he at least presents an obstacle to score over in the paint.

He's a bigger traffic cone. I just think its a lot to ask JC, Niang, and TB to hold together in bench units. Morgan can't be plugged in now. I think Niang has been fine for the most part... don't want him out there in crunch time.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Conley hasn't played bad but he is far from "fugging amazing". or else he should be dropping 30+ and we'd have won G5 or G6.

The dude is shooting 57% from the field and 61% 3 with incredible consistency through 4 games. He's doing exactly what he was brought to Utah to do. His TS% is 77.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Both Mitchell and Conley need to get at least ten 3PA's in game 7. Both dudes are just flames from 3 in this series.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I mean, the Jazz got Bojan who isnt playing. Conley has been fugging amazing for us in this series.

The big issue (other than Bojan being injured) is that Jeff Green and Ed Davis absolutely busted. Getting Conley was absolutely 100% the right move even though they overpaid.

I think we could have gotten a different guy and I am puzzled why we felt we needed a full fledged point guard next to DM.

Bojan being hurt sucks... and you are right the other moves bombed. I just wonder what we could have done had we viewed DM as a pg and focused on bringing either a big pg to play alongside him like Brogdon or getting a wing.

We also seem to lose Ingles when we play him with DM and Mike... size wise I think Joe makes more sense as a starter. Mike has been very good in the series but having him and DM puts us at a size disadvantage and Royce/Ingles are solid on defense but not good enough to make up for the size issues.

 

[jom2003]

The dude is shooting 57% from the field and 61% 3 with incredible consistency through 4 games. He's doing exactly what he was brought to Utah to do. His TS% is 77.

yeah but only on 13 attempts a game. As our secondary scoring, he gotta be able increase to at least 15 shots a game. those 15-20 pts a game simply won't be enough to fill in the gap left by DM when he's off the court for a rest.

if we double Murray in G7 to force the ball out of his hand, rest assured Jokic will take the matter in his own hand and drop 30+ to put us out of the misery. can the same be said about Conley if Denver is to double DM and let Conley beat them?

 

[jom2003]

The dude is shooting 57% from the field and 61% 3 with incredible consistency through 4 games. He's doing exactly what he was brought to Utah to do. His TS% is 77.

also BTW, Niang is currently 50/40 on 63% TS. But he kills us on other areas so much to the point of him needing at least 15pts a game to even justify him being on the court.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think we could have gotten a different guy and I am puzzled why we felt we needed a full fledged point guard next to DM.

Bojan being hurt sucks... and you are right the other moves bombed. I just wonder what we could have done had we viewed DM as a pg and focused on bringing either a big pg to play alongside him like Brogdon or getting a wing.

We also seem to lose Ingles when we play him with DM and Mike... size wise I think Joe makes more sense as a starter. Mike has been very good in the series but having him and DM puts us at a size disadvantage and Royce/Ingles are solid on defense but not good enough to make up for the size issues.

The Jazz needed shooters. The Jazz got the elite of elite in C&S who are also all-around offensive talents. The idea that the Jazz went away from the idea of Mitchell being a PG is ridiculous. They surrounded him with shooters to increase the effectiveness of his drive and kick game and give him space to operate.

They tried to put athleticism and defense on the bench, but those dudes just busted. **** happens. I think the bench will almost certainly be better next year as long as they dont lose Clarkson.

And the Ingles stuff is completely on Ingles. The Jazz can't bend lineups just to suit Ingles. The dude has to be a better self-starter and not let himself float through games without being aggressive.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It really does hurt that Ingles is having another horrendous shooting playoffs (outside of the 1st two games). I thought covid break might help him with fatigue from the season, but I guess he's is emotionally down in the dumps being away from his family. I think the lack of crowd motivation has hurt his game as well. Dude really thrives off the crowd, both talking **** to him and pumping him up.

He's invisible in the starting lineup... he doesn't touch the ball when we go iso like we did last night. I think the crowd does kind of feed him... but all year the Conley, Ingles, DM dynamic hasn't worked as well as I had hoped.