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Gameface said:
I think, and I desperately hope, that we're looking at a blowout.

I don't want to be overconfident and I don't want to celebrate early, but the tide seems to be set, and not in a good way for Trump.

If election night results are soundly against Trump and mail-in results are just as bad or worse I think we can avoid challenges and legal battles.

High voter turnout is Trump's worst enemy.
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And yet, 4 million early votes have been cast already. At this point in the 2016 election, only 75,000 votes had been cast.
It is most definitely going to be a high voter turnout.

Fivethirtyeight.com odds are changing seemingly by the minute. There is now a 33% chance of a landslide loss by Trump.
 
How the hell does this make any sense? Does this make you proud to be an American? Think countries see this and don’t see how obvious our voter suppression is?

 
Beer said:
So Trump is stopping a stimulus until after the election. Bold and terrible strategy. He's gone even more insane.
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Is it supposed to be some sort of idiotic threat? Like you won't get a stimulus unless you elect me

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fishonjazz said:
Is it supposed to be some sort of idiotic threat? Like you won't get a stimulus unless you elect me

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It's a childish ploy. He isn't smart enough to plot like that. I'm convinced most of the time the just does whatever comes into his mind at the moment, then when it's revealed to be a stupid idea, he doubles down on it as an attempt to save face.
 
All the early voting this year is going to be nuts, by my count 20 states already have more than 1% of potential ballots back in. South Dakota already over 10%. It's entirely possible we'll know the results weeks in advance.
 
Na na na na

hey hey hey

goodbye

even Rasmussen shows Biden up double digits. That not the drugs has Trump freaking out this morning.
 
The Thriller said:
Na na na na

hey hey hey

goodbye

even Rasmussen shows Biden up double digits. That not the drugs has Trump freaking out this morning.
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Never believe Rasmussen. They do this every cycle - post a high-water mark and then follow it up with 3-4 weeks of polls showing tightening in the race down to the margin of error.

Now if they show it outside of the margin of error at Halloween, they've probably thrown the towel in.
 
I have had Facebook interactions with 3 suburban working class women from philly suburbs who flipped from trump to Biden after watching the debate. They were not paying attention to the election but flipped on the tv and were like: omg, our prez is psychotic (paraphrasing).

Small sample size theater, but polls indicate the same.
 
My advise to Biden for the next debate.
  1. Every time trump interrupts, completely stop speaking and let Trump talk until he stops, writing down each Trump accusation
  2. After Trump stops, wait 1-2 seconds, then turn to the moderator and respectfully ask for additional time to speak uninterrupted.
  3. After getting permission, thank the moderator and then proceed with what he is saying, ignoring what Trump just said.
  4. Each time Trump interrupts, go back to #1 and repeat the cycle
  5. After completing the answer, go back to your notes and succinctly refute each trump accusation until they are exhausted. This can be as simple as "He said X, that is a lie"
  6. Keep it 100% respectful and dignified.
  7. Don't stoop to Trump's level.
  8. People are sick of Trump's childishness, let him further expose himself as a child.
 
The Thriller said:
Bill Kristol, Charlie Sykes, and Michael Steele are anti Trump. Amanda carpenter, Jennifer Rubin, and Anne Applebaum are all conservatives I respect who are definitely anti Trump.
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And let’s not forget George Will, at the intellectual center of American conservatism for decades.
 
silesian said:
My advise to Biden for the next debate.
  1. Every time trump interrupts, completely stop speaking and let Trump talk until he stops, writing down each Trump accusation
  2. After Trump stops, wait 1-2 seconds, then turn to the moderator and respectfully ask for additional time to speak uninterrupted.
  3. After getting permission, thank the moderator and then proceed with what he is saying, ignoring what Trump just said.
  4. Each time Trump interrupts, go back to #1 and repeat the cycle
  5. After completing the answer, go back to your notes and succinctly refute each trump accusation until they are exhausted. This can be as simple as "He said X, that is a lie"
  6. Keep it 100% respectful and dignified.
  7. Don't stoop to Trump's level.
  8. People are sick of Trump's childishness, let him further expose himself as a child.
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This works in theory but then Trump interrupts continually. Would also require nimble thinking and not platitude filled canned answers. Debates are dumb. In lieu of debates I'd prefer each candidate talk for 60-90 minutes about key issues and outline their plans. Make it live and primetime and allow a moderator to ask open ended questions. Maybe allow 3-4 key questions from the other candidate that are unknown until the debate... force the moderator to ask follow ups or details. This head to head **** is loudest voice in the room gets to talk and quickly falls into childish name calling.
 
silesian said:
My advise to Biden for the next debate.
  1. Every time trump interrupts, completely stop speaking and let Trump talk until he stops, writing down each Trump accusation
  2. After Trump stops, wait 1-2 seconds, then turn to the moderator and respectfully ask for additional time to speak uninterrupted.
  3. After getting permission, thank the moderator and then proceed with what he is saying, ignoring what Trump just said.
  4. Each time Trump interrupts, go back to #1 and repeat the cycle
  5. After completing the answer, go back to your notes and succinctly refute each trump accusation until they are exhausted. This can be as simple as "He said X, that is a lie"
  6. Keep it 100% respectful and dignified.
  7. Don't stoop to Trump's level.
  8. People are sick of Trump's childishness, let him further expose himself as a child.
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I would put a Biden yard sign in my front flowerbed if he casually strolled over and backhanded the **** out of Donald.
 
Imagine being such a stupid and broken person that you think making videos like these actually makes you look good:



Covid was a blessing from god? Hmmm
 
I only listened to about 15 minutes of the VP debate. It's all so dumb. The moderator would ask them each a question about the issue with Trump and Bidens age. Pence just talks about the swine flu from 2009 and harris just talks about her upbringing and her accomplishments.

Neither even attempted at all to answer the question that was asked.

I couldn't take it and had to turn it off.

The part I did listen to i thought pence was winning though. He sure is well spoken and articulate. If I knew nothing of either candidate or which party they were from or anything about trump or Biden etc and these two were running for potus then pence would get my vote based off the little I heard.

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I only listened to about 15 minutes myself, just a retread of everything. You could practically answer the questions the candidates would give before they opened their mouths. Harris' smiling on some of these issues a little too frequent. I tend not to trust people like that. To quote you some Shakespeare:
One may smile, and smile, and be a villain
 
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