Yeah, could be several players besides Harris, almost all of whose contracts are not as troublesome as his. Sounds like Atlanta has a weird mandate from ownership to make the playoffs next year, so they may indeed be trying to get win-now vets. And they have space (at least for the coming year or two) to take contracts that may make other teams blanch. But still, I don't think they're taking Tobias.
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So first a disclaimer - I'm a bit late to watching this year's prospects so help me out here. What is the reason Okoro is considered a better prospect than Patrick Williams? I'd take Williams over Okoro pretty easily from what I've seen.
No expert here either, but from what I understand of the consensus, Okoro is:
-clearly better defender (Williams may or may not turn into a high quality defender; Okoro is almost certain to be -- for basketball quickness I think Okoro has the edge)
- less of a project (other than shooting, Okoro's very likely to be strong at most other parts of the game; it's still somewhat iffy with Williams -- footwork needs refining; shot needs speeding up off the catch; needs to figure how to cut down TOs, needs better defensive discipline)
-someone with perhaps the best motor in the class (though Williams is also reputed to be fairly good here)
I personally don't see him as that much of a complete player. I don't think he's an easy transition to the league. You gloss over the shooting like it's nothing or easy to fix. His shooting is bad. I have more faith in Williams' shooting than in Okoros's. And it's not close. Here's Okoro's shooting % - 29% from 3, 67% from FT. 16% from midrange!! I see very little hope of a transition into even an average shooter. I think he becomes something like... worse shooting Winslow at best... or like... a Justin Anderson on the lower end.
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regarding the prior discussion about Woodard's measurements. Definitely not 6'4.5''
Okoro is more aggressive on both ends. Much better on-ball defense.
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Notes: Measured 6’4.5 without shoes, 6’5.5 with shoes, 207 lbs, with a 6’11.5 wingspan and 8’7.5 standing reach at the 2014 USA Junior National Team Mini Camp
From the 2015 - draftexpress report: -Doesn't have great height for the wing yet (around 6-5) but is extremely long with a near 7-foot wingspan, which allows him to play bigger than his size. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Robert-Woodard-85461/ ©DraftExpress
I'd rather have him be 6'7" with a 7'1" wingspan - and it's quite possible that's what he is now given this measurement is from 2014, and the other from 2015. But, I'm. not going to say he's 6'7" unless I can find an official measurement. I still have PTSD about Donovan and other key players shrinking in official measurements. Maybe, he measured 6'7 in this years combine, but given how chaotic this season's combine was - I'm not sure I would trust that 100% either. Of course, all that chaos in this year's draft and scouting could be the opportunity the Jazz need to find another diamond in the rough -and maybe Woodard is that guy. Maybe not. I also have concern about his inability to dribble well, and could see him having real problems playing in the tight spaces that NBA defenses are going to offer him.
Bruh he was 15/16 at this time lmao.
Spencer Pearlmen is a super connected scout, so I trust his reporting on Woodard.
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He was the one that said Philly has a promise out to Isiah Joe (maybe it wasn't their first round pick doe).
I'm not excited about Robert Woodard in the first round, just as I wouldn't be excited about drafting Jamychal Green or James Johnson in the first round.
If you want a defensive-minded backup forward, there are several of them available around the league--Thad Young, Al Farouq Aminu, Taurean Prince, Mo Harkless, Glenn Robinson III, etc.
If you want a defensive-minded backup forward, there are several of them available around the league--Thad Young, Al Farouq Aminu, Taurean Prince, Mo Harkless, Glenn Robinson III, etc.
Three of the following 7 guys are expected to be available at #23: Josh Green, Cole Anthony, Jalen Smith, Desmond Bane, Aleksej Pokusevski, Jaden McDaniels, Theo Maledon.
We don't have to talk about Tyler Bey and Robert Woodard unless we're really hyped about them.
We don't have to talk about Tyler Bey and Robert Woodard unless we're really hyped about them.