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Lockout!!!

Ever since the beginning this whole ordeal has been about Hunter trying to figure out how to play a losing hand. It's time for him to get what scraps he can and accept defeat.
 
I apologize for my tone Numberica. Sincerely. I've been frustrated because all I seem to read is how greedy the league is and how they are trying to "steal" from the little guy. Even though the little guy in this situation is a millionaire playing basketball for a living. I can't read someone's post that says the NBA made the MOST PROFITS EVER and not be a little frustrated. It's either a lie or someone is very misinformed. I'll try to respond to a couple of these, but in all reality, we know that some will favor the player's side, and others the owner's.

NUMBERICA said:
I'm not going to have an IGS engagement with you. So I'm just going to rattle off some stuff and hope you can follow.
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I actually don't know what an IGS engagement means. Tried looking it up and all I found was Instrument Guidance System.

NUMBERICA said:
57% is the base of the split. That is, the general, strived-for cut of the revenues. The amount paid out went below 57% for the first time in the last season (which means the lowest cut ever)*, and yet, even with revenues increasing EVERY SINGLE YEAR (as evidenced by the cap and MLE continuing to rise despite all of the doom and gloom the owners have been spewing for years), the league - allegedly - lost the most (or close to the most) money last year. Makes no sense.
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Hold on, did you read the article you posted? The initial salaries that went out fell below 57%, so the owners RETURNED escrow funds to the players to hit EXACTLY 57%. The player's "cut" as you put it, isn't finished until the escrow is disbursed. They received 57%, same as always. It's not the lowest cut ever, it's the same cut they get every year. It's GUARANTEED in the current (expired) CBA.

NUMBERICA said:
The players union are the only people that have seen the documents (and I am skeptical even they have seen every team's ledgers), and we're in a ****ing lockout. Do you need it spelled out to you?
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I don't think the Players Association would offer immediate concessions of $100 million a year if they didn't feel they fully understood the fiscal state of the NBA. But maybe your're right, they haven't received everything necessary and they blindly gave back 1/2 billion dollars out of the goodness of their hearts.

NUMBERICA said:
Why is it players fault that 43% of billions of dollars has been horribly mismanaged? 43% was fine for a really long time and when the last CBA was extended, the narrative is that the owners got a great deal.
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100% agree with you. The remaining 43% has probably been poorly managed. I don't think all of the losses need to come out of the players pockets, but a big chunk does. We can't start cutting the salaries of people who make $45,000 year and expect it to make a big difference. Maybe the owners should cut back on amenities the players receive. Have them fly coach. No more free meals in the locker room. Have them share hotel rooms. I'm sure the players would love that.

NUMBERICA said:
In terms of assuring income for all teams, the issue really needs to start with revenue sharing. Even if you can assure Sacramento makes a buck, that doesn't mean the playing field is anymore even, it just means that the Knicks will make 5-10 times as much as them even if they have half the wins.
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Revenue sharing does need to increase/improve. I agree. But it can't start there. You have to have a profit first for revenue sharing to help. Here is an example using only 3 teams for simplicity:

Jazz- $1 million in profits
Timberwolves-$7 million in losses
Knicks-$5 million in profits

If you, Numberica, can use revenue sharing to provide each of these 3 teams with a profit, then I think you should be the new NBA commissioner.
 
JJAS said:
Don't know if anyone has posted this. The players are running out of time if they want to capitalize on the BRI. I never thought of this, but the players have until about mid December to hold out and then they have to raise the percentage to gain anything. If there is no season, any gains on BRI for the players will be negligible. At that point they are only fighting for some higher purpose or the nature of the system.

https://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/32334/the-player-salaries-lost-to-a-lockout
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Good find. Rep.
 
I know one of the VP's in the Jazz and he said they expect games to be played before Christmas. The way the players burn through money, they wouldn't be able to live. He said a lot of players actually come and ask for advances on their paychecks.
 
gesicht said:
I know one of the VP's in the Jazz and he said they expect games to be played before Christmas. The way the players burn through money, they wouldn't be able to live. He said a lot of players actually come and ask for advances on their paychecks.
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I know they usually put Rookies through some sort of orientation, but the NBA really needs to get involved in helping players better prepare themselves for when they are no longer making money in basketball. When I was 19 years old I wasn't very good at budgeting or managing my money, I can't even imagine being a millionaire at that age.

I read somewhere that something like 60% of NBA players are broke within 2 years after leaving the NBA. Anyone else heard something like this? I think it was in Sports Illustrated.
 
carolinajazz said:
...darn right it doesn't work anymore! But not for the reasons you stated. It doesn't work anymore because they ain't paying these pathetic looking punks who can't run plays, can't make open jump shots, can't make free throws, refuse to listen to the coach, refuse to play defense and have a host of off court problems that range from drug use to populating the earth with illegitimate children, $200.000 per game!
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The only thing that makes less sense than your logic is the fact that you can't walk away from something you hate so much.
 
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