Rudy Gobert 5 years, $205M

[oneye]

I hope oneye is wrong but there is ample evidence that he is correct. I am hoping that Donavon changes his tune a bit as time goes by but the last while it has been pretty clear that DM has really cooled on Utah as a place to play. I also think the fan based has cooled a bit toward DM. My sense is that he really likes Quinn and his teammates but they may not be enough. For now, enjoy the next 4 years and hope we can get it done.

I hope so too. But too much has changed in his head IMO, all he thinks Utah is, is a backwards place thats ignorant and racist at this point, he's completely bought it at this point. You never see him involved here anymore. You never see him mention any of the local sports teams here anymore. Remember when he used to tweet about BYU, Utah football and basketball? Yeah that hasn't happened anymore has it? You've seen zero community involvement from him here in the past 10 months. He hasn't spent a second here he wasn't contractually obligated to. Wasn't even in Utah to sign his extension. Never acknowledged it. Never thanked the organization, fanbase, or community for the unabashed support he was shown for 3 years and the $163-195 million gold plated pay day and contract he got. I know Rudy, Joe, Quin, and other coaches within the organization have been involved and on calls with local leaders the past 6 months, Donovan has had no involvement and never been on any of those calls. And the fanbase has every right to cool on him when it's obvious he's lumped everyone in with those idiots in his comments sections. It doesn't matter his alma mater Louisvilles posts have the same comments, or every NBA and players page who posts about social and political issues, no Donovan believes you are all racist POS at this point and it's just the sad truth. People who don't see the really drastic change in his vibe towards Utah over the past 10 months are just being willfully blind. I have a toxic approach to this, but it's still the truth.

 

[oneye]

Dude I think you're a dumb ***. I Don't post that often but when I do it's too tell someone their a dumb ***

Sent from my GM1915 using TapatalkT

Thanks for posting but your opinion means nothing to me have a nice day!

 

[Bawse Dawg]

I hope oneye is wrong but there is ample evidence that he is correct. I am hoping that Donavon changes his tune a bit as time goes by but the last while it has been pretty clear that DM has really cooled on Utah as a place to play. I also think the fan based has cooled a bit toward DM. My sense is that he really likes Quinn and his teammates but they may not be enough. For now, enjoy the next 4 years and hope we can get it done.

It's really not about whether or not Mitchell leaves though.

If I was a betting man I'd say that Mitchell probably won't sign a third contract in Utah. That doesn't mean Oneye isn't acting like a spurned Robert De Niro.

 

[oneye]

It's really not about whether or not Mitchell leaves though.

If I was a betting man I'd say that Mitchell probably won't sign a third contract in Utah. That doesn't mean Oneye isn't acting like a spurned Robert De Niro.

I think my frustration lies in the fact. He could have been a real difference here, and instead took a close minded toxic approach that did nothing but make people stop listening to important issues he could have made serious in roads on in the state. Instead of being level headed about the fact people would disagree he took a toxic approach. All Donovan’s approach is, is yelling into an echo chamber and changing no minds. Then he throws a fit or gets butthurt when things get rough or people don’t fully agree with him. He really thought getting involved in politics would have no backlash? Or pushing social justice in the way he approached it wouldn’t have some people who disagreed? And then made his approach overtly political? And now he’s just checked out as far as his feelings about being here. It’s obvious. He’s actually probably less fake than I’ve thought of him. He can’t hide his feelings of not liking it here anymore. So he probably truly did mean what he said earlier in his career of liking it here, but he has absolutely let social media comments and stuff shape the way he thinks and his opinion of being here at this point, and he doesn’t like it anymore.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

I think my frustration lies in the fact. He could have been a real difference here, and instead took a close minded toxic approach that did nothing but make people stop listening to important issues he could have made serious in roads on in the state. Instead of being level headed about the fact people would disagree he took a toxic approach. All Donovan’s approach is, is yelling into an echo chamber and changing no minds. Then he throws a fit or gets butthurt when things get rough or people don’t fully agree with him. He really thought getting involved in politics would have no backlash? Or pushing social justice in the way he approached it wouldn’t have some people who disagreed? And then made his approach overtly political? And now he’s just checked out as far as his feelings about being here. It’s obvious.

Dude give me a break. Maybe he actually cares about those social issues and doesn't give a **** if some racist *** holes don't like him because of it? Do you not see the ridiculousness of saying "He just decided to lump ALL of us fans in with the bigots and now he hates us all" Yet you call him an arrogant, disloyal, ungrateful bitch all day on the internet. If he were aware of you he would not like you at all and it would have nothing to do with your stance on how he feels about social change.

You mocked it when he was constantly posting on social media and it was all an act to 'curate his brand' now he doesn't post anything, and you say he's silent because he is just steaming with how much he hates the organization and can't wait to leave. Just admit your agenda and move on. You just said 'I hope I'm wrong a few posts up'. I think that is a massive lie. You would way rather be 'right'. Why would you even want Mitchell to sign another contract, when you hate him and think he's such a trash person?

 

[oneye]

Like guys......since the social media comments when he threw a fit he won’t even put his profile pic of him in a Jazz uniform anymore. He changed it the day of the Jazz BLM post and has never changed it back to a Jazz uniform again......his feelings are pretty clear on this community. They just are.

 

[One Brow]

I think my frustration lies in the fact. He could have been a real difference here, and instead took a close minded toxic approach that did nothing but make people stop listening to important issues he could have made serious in roads on in the state.

Balderdash. If Mitchell didn't make enough noise to make people uncomfortable, then they wouldn't change at all. The toxic environment is what Mitchell walked into.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It's really not about whether or not Mitchell leaves though.

If I was a betting man I'd say that Mitchell probably won't sign a third contract in Utah. That doesn't mean Oneye isn't acting like a spurned Robert De Niro.

If anything I think he gives us the Brad Beal 1-2 year extension in a few years... I think he will be straight with us and ultimately I think he is traded somewhere he wants to go rather than leaving us with nothing.

The only way I see it being different is if we have a young player that explodes to at least a borderline all star level and it convinces him to be a lifer here. If we had won a title I think it will help the case to stay and be a lifer. If not he feels the pressure to win and other pastures likely look greener.

I will not hate him or feel betrayed. NBA world is different now.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Dear Don, I wrote you, but you still ain't callin'

I left my cell, my pager and my JazzFanz username at the bottom

I wrote two threads about you back in autumn, you must not've seen 'em

There probably was a problem with the internet at the bubble or somethin'

Sometimes my posts get too sloppy when I jot ‘em

But anyways, **** it, what's been up, man? How's your new contract?

My girlfriend's pregnant, I'm 'bout to be a father

If I have a son, guess what I'ma call em?

I'ma name him Donnie

I know you ain’t scared of LeBron or his son Bronny

I had a friend delete his account over some NBA player who didn’t want him

I know you probably hear this every day, but I'm your biggest fan

I got a room full of your posters and your pictures, man

I even got the the sneakers you signed for that little girl at the game

You know you’re way better than Dame

Anyways, I hope you get this, man, hit me back

Just to chat, if you don’t I’ma cry, this is @oneye

 

[oneye]

Dude give me a break. Maybe he actually cares about those social issues and doesn't give a **** if some racist *** holes don't like him because of it? Do you not see the ridiculousness of saying "He just decided to lump ALL of us fans in with the bigots and now he hates us all" Yet you call him an arrogant, disloyal, ungrateful bitch all day on the internet. If he were aware of you he would not like you at all and it would have nothing to do with you stance on how he feels about social change.

You mocked it when he was constantly posting on social media and it was all an act to 'curate his brand' now he doesn't post anything, and you say he's silent because he is just steaming with how much he hates the organization and can't wait to leave. Just admit your agenda and move on. You just said 'I hope I'm wrong a few posts up'. I think that is a massive lie. You would way rather be 'right'. Why would you even want Mitchell to sign another contract, when you hate him and think he's such a trash person?

As far as the social justice stuff, I agree with his stances but not his approach. Obama is right that if you want to forward a message, catchy phrases like “defund the police” are easy to say, but you’re only reaching the people who already agree with you and losing those you need to actually change things. Perhaps when trying to educate people on Juneteenth, post something about Juneteenth instead of a graphic of “free-ish”, true or not it doesn’t resonate with people especially those losing their jobs during a pandemic as he is a high paid athlete that plays basketball. Your message will only be as impactful as your approach. And your reply is exactly the problem. Disagreement, doesn’t mean someone is racist. Not supporting a specific political party/candidate. Does not make someone racist. It doesn’t. You don’t know their reasoning they don’t know yours so a decent approach of reaching the people who don’t understand the issues is how you’re going to actually press forward real and lasting change. His approach has been nothing but divisive, cry when someone doesn’t agree with me, toxic behavior. I believe the issues are very important to him, they should be to us all, but I would like to see a real difference made not yelling into our echo chambers.

As for not liking me lol, you’re right, but he doesn’t like you anymore than me, cause it’s pretty obvious he’s lumped everyone in with his comment sections and that’s his reality. (It’s not reality btw) when 100,000 people like a post, and 1,000 people leave a negative comment, that’s 1% of people. And I have no doubts that at least 1% of people will always be horrible POS. But the 99% who liked the post well, they’re just like that 1% in his reality.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Orlando just gave Isaac 20M a year and Fultz 16.7M a year... Is Rudy worth 5M more a year than Isaac and Fultz? Fo. Sho.

 

[infection]

Orlando just gave Isaac 20M a year and Fultz 16.7M a year... Is Rudy worth 5M more a year than Isaac and Fultz? Fo. Sho.

Fultz? I thought he was almost out of the league.

 

[oneye]

Balderdash. If Mitchell didn't make enough noise to make people uncomfortable, then they wouldn't change at all. The toxic environment is what Mitchell walked into.

Nah. Uncomfortable is one thing, I think having the conversations in a real way is important. At every approach he chose the most toxic approach he could and then apparently expected zero disagreement ever and got super offended at any disagreement whether it was socially or politically with him. Donovan was a part of fostering toxicity with the conversation.

Like the kneeling during the anthem stuff, did that really forward the conversation? Or just turn a lot of people off and close their minds to you and change the conversation from racial issues to a kneeling debate? I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it, but it’s not an approach that garners the support you need from those who see that specific issue differently. People who don’t like kneeling aren’t racist, they do miss the point, but neither NBA stars nor you or I have the the right to tell a mom who lost her child at war who feels deeply about that issue how to feel.

 

[oneye]

Orlando just gave Isaac 20M a year and Fultz 16.7M a year... Is Rudy worth 5M more a year than Isaac and Fultz? Fo. Sho.

Wow

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Fultz? I thought he was almost out of the league.

He was solid last year. Issue is if he never gets the shot back he is close to his ceiling. And the shot is part mental part physical. I wouldn't bet on it.

Isaac is always hurt... they just bet big on two guys that would terrify me. Yeesh. Somewhere OG Anunoby is telling the Raptors whatever their last offer was they need to add 5M a year to it before they can talk.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

We don’t need that. Let him space the floor by keeping people trying to disrupt the lob, opening up the perimeter. What we need is him to be the beast on defense that impacts every game on a consistent basis. That’s what takes us to the next level. We didn’t need AK to “work on his jumpshot,” we needed him to let more efficient guys score and him keep the energy and do the dirty work. I want Rudy getting high percentage lobs and putbacks.

Best rimmer runner in the game!

 

[cowhide]

Damn. That's a lot of loot. I thought around 33M-35M per season would be a giving contract. Over 40M per season... that's pretty much half a million per regular season game for Rudy. Boggles my mind.

It took me a while to get my mind wrapped around how much money is spent in the NBA, I was comparing the day when Karl and John were making about 10 million and less during their primes and now you get for the mid level exemption. It is just a different world now-a-days, but if I had a son I would want him to grow up and either be a baseball or a basketball player. These guys also make money outside of the game too. The money given out today is just ridiculous.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

He was solid last year. Issue is if he never gets the shot back he is close to his ceiling. And the shot is part mental part physical. I wouldn't bet on it.

Isaac is always hurt... they just bet big on two guys that would terrify me. Yeesh. Somewhere OG Anunoby is telling the Raptors whatever their last offer was they need to add 5M a year to it before they can talk.

Nevermind... OG gets 4/72M. I'd rather have OG than Isaac... surprised he didn't get a little more.

 

[NUMBERICA]

If y’all hate how much players are being paid, rail on the senselessness of our economic system. In the meantime, this **** is all relative and exists in the context that the game itself makes too much money. In two years, $40 million a year isn’t going to be shocking.

 

[colton]

There is so much we don't know.

What we do know - Rudy did something in that locker room bad enough that nobody wants to bring it to the surface. Nobody came to Rudy's defense on his actions in the locker room. So whether Don got it hours before Rudy or not is irrelevant. Rudy was the first confirmed COVID case and his actions towards Don and maybe even others were unacceptable.

We are months away from this and it still baffles me that people bash Don for having a very human reaction to a very unprecedented situation.

Donovan and Rudy were confirmed the same evening, right?

Also, there was that report that Rudy intentionally went around touching personal items of people in mockery towards the concerns about the virus. That was one of the things for which he apologized. I'm not sure though if that was before or after he was diagnosed with COVID.

Before, for sure. If it happened. He didn't do anything like that after he tested positive.