Election Count Issues
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Stars Fan
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You have articulated my greatest fear. I hope you are wrong.
Avery
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So ten senators have joined in saying they will challenge the results and ask for a full audit in disputed states for two weeks until Jan. 20. All for show of course and will change nothing.
Because that hasn’t been done by those states or anything countless times already.
Politicians are pond scum. Both parties have been guilty in that endeavor, but Republicans right now are carrying the torch for idiocy and I’ll never vote for anyone contributing to this lunacy.
Conversely, I actually give Mitt some credit for seeing this from afar and getting ahead of it while his peers say and do anything to stay in office and pad their investments.
Because that hasn’t been done by those states or anything countless times already.
Politicians are pond scum. Both parties have been guilty in that endeavor, but Republicans right now are carrying the torch for idiocy and I’ll never vote for anyone contributing to this lunacy.
Conversely, I actually give Mitt some credit for seeing this from afar and getting ahead of it while his peers say and do anything to stay in office and pad their investments.
I have briefly looked at this.
Lin Wood did a rally in Georgia about a month ago, after he and Sidney Powell were essentially run off from the Trump camp. He is from Georgia, a citizen and votger in Georgia. I wanted to know why he was advocating voters not vote in the upcoming GA senate runnoff. He was outing both GA R candidates as swampsters who would not make any difference even if elected.
Further exploring, I found his GA lawsuit online..... the very papers he filed. If he believes his effort will be productive, he believes the runoof is unnecessary because he can prove both candidates acdtually won more than 50% in the Nov 3 election.
He is campaigning to run for office on the tide of dissatisfied voters, with the voting irregularities no longer in place.
As it seems to be shaping up on th3e challenge, he believes there is enough proof which courts have so far failed to permit in consideration, that anyone who does not act to stop the steal is essentially acting in treason. I don't think he wants Pence to be the first on the block for the big chop.
still, on the obverse of this whole scene is the fact that the Dems have had a war game scenario, where if they lost they would be doing all the same ****, for whatever time it takes, to overthrow a Trump Presidency. And there are, per my information, hired..... mercenary..... groups in significant numbers, ready to riot on command if needed. Plus a significant number of online talking pointers to dominate the webz. We know the main Media is all in, as well as the leadership and maybe a majority of the ranks of federal and state employees and schoolteachers organized.
I don't think Trump has any sort of counterpart to all that. Lin Wood is an outsider on the Trump efforts now, and likely to lose in any court. Sidney Powell's efforts will similarly fail, but with downstream fallout that will mean the Dominion and similar machnines will be disallowed in the future, along with absentee ballots without signatures and driverslicence and residence proof.
Most of what Trump has done will be undone quickly, and we will have even more disruptive authoritarian orders all over hell.
I just don't think this whole plan will succeed in the long run. You folks who are all for it will find ;yourselves in the dustbins of history in the aftermath.
If there is a climate crisis (which I don't believe) this turn will mean nothing will be done about it. Nothing effective.
Population numbers will surely decline, maybe drastically, and we will have the worst depression in history.
Congratulations.
Ship; of fools.
The Thriller
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Soooo ummm... this kinda makes this thread awkward. Maybe babe is a genius and was merely describing Donald’s attempts to commit voter fraud?
Beer
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R U Stupid?
So I listened to the whole tape.
The phone conference was a "settlement meeting" scheduled by lawyers to end a lawsuit. Trump said he's be willing to end it, provided any of a list of about ten kinds of problematic..... eh.... illegal..... votes....... were reviewed and came up with the win. Otherwise, he would persist in wanting everything adjudicated in the court. So the perp didn't settle. He still may face serious charges.
The lawsuit could be construed, as most lawsuits are as some kind of a "threat" or demand, but it is all in the legal purview of the justice system. Per the laws on the books at least.
I have read some of the lawsuits entirely, and imo laws were broken, and in that sense, if there is probable intent to tamper with the election, it could be construed as "treason" depending on motives, but more likely as "criminal" if there is provable personal gain financially or politically.
Trump is acting, so far, under the provisions of law.
Lin Wood strikes me as more unreserved and more of a muckraker perhaps, but in his court filings he is succinct and grounded. I can see how his public show works for him. The courts will certainly get public notice.
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Confucius say....... he who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool.
Avery
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After the Republicans lose these GA races, you'll immediately see Trump dispatch them as weak and pointless - because that's what he does: use you until you have no further use.
They're also learning that without Trump on the ballot and talking more about how he was screwed vs. why they're actually good candidates matters. GOP turnout turned down, Democrats turned up.
They're also learning that without Trump on the ballot and talking more about how he was screwed vs. why they're actually good candidates matters. GOP turnout turned down, Democrats turned up.
They are both looking like R wins. I don't know what you're looking at.
Avery
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Don't look at what's in front of you now, look at what's being projected. High black turnout, depressed GOP turnout = 2 seats flipped for big blue.
All the vote left out there is in democratic strongholds. Only a matter of time before the totals flip blue.
Warnock's going to win by 1.5% - 2%. Ossoff by around 1%.
Senate Minority Leader McConnell will become a reality in two weeks.
okay. I'm seeing 91% reporting and each R up by around 100,000 votes. I haven't done a deep dive so I'll take your word for it and wait for the final tally.
latin jazz
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NYT is a good source. Just like in the general election, most votes reamaining are from blue counties.
Avery
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Election Needles: Georgia Senate Runoffs (Published 2021)
Modeling the Senate runoff election results.
Scary how accurate this has been in the past.
I'm going to have a legit chuckle if these races go blue and Biden has a green light to torch Trump's legacy. I really wouldn't care much otherwise, but Trumpism needs to be eradicated from our nation like the rat **** sewage dump that it is.
latin jazz
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Yeah, they do a pretty good job. Now is about waiting the results in DeKalb. It looks like a done deal for Dems.Election Needles: Georgia Senate Runoffs (Published 2021)
Modeling the Senate runoff election results.www.nytimes.com
Scary how accurate this has been in the past.
Avery
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Tonight will be underestimated, but you'll be looking at a 50-50 Senate with Harris breaking ties.
Things that seemed unfathomable post Nov. 3rd when D's underperformed in nearly every swing race means some things might be back on the table such as DC statehood, more aggressive climate/border action, etc.