No. But that dog is equipped with the tools and breeding that if you took him to the Unitahs along with a poodle, the bloodhound would have a much greater chance of finding him. It's what they do. It's what has been bred into them. They may not perform that task as well as a trained bloodhound but it is there. You can't train him not to use his nose.
Where is that pit bull thread when I need it?
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No. But that dog is equipped with the tools and breeding that if you took him to the Unitahs along with a poodle, the bloodhound would have a much greater chance of finding him. It's what they do. It's what has been bred into them. They may not perform that task as well as a trained bloodhound but it is there. You can't train him not to use his nose.
kwb
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergeant_Stubby
No potential for these dogs at all. Just bred to kill. Shoot them all in the head. They will all eventually go crazy right?
No potential for these dogs at all. Just bred to kill. Shoot them all in the head. They will all eventually go crazy right?
kwb
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I would never own a pit because no matter how good natured they may be, they are a timebomb waiting to go off....
Wrong.
Also, I don't own a pit. I own an American Bulldog but I guess your emotions got the best of you while reading my first post stating what kind of dog I own.
Archie Moses
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I don't like Pittbull the singer although his Dr. Pepper commercial is catchy.
kwb
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It's ok Archie. Lindsay Lohan hates him too.
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I am impressed. Salty actually posted a link that attempted to prove something not just make a claim. Good thing they don't dock pitbulls tails huh? Since it proved that docking tails could lead to increased aggression.
Unfortunately, the same article tried to loop in ear cropping without any evidence for it. Just a "well if tails do that, so will ears" with nothing to support it. Go read the study they link to, it says nothing about ears, just tails. Here is another look at that study:
https://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=64bb6ba6-3b23-4da9-9466-abd1a6f2587c
So where is the proof that cropping ears makes a dog more FEROCIOUS and a BETTER FIGHTER.
I highlighted those last 2 because all you have proven so far is that docking tails is bad (agreed), which they do NOT do to pitbulls, and that in the PAST bulls had cropped ears to protect them in a fight. Nothing to prove that intent in modern times, nor to prove your claims that I highlighted.
I did like your attempt to further your stereotype by adding in the hick commentary. Nice ad hominem. Proves nothing, but it’s a nice touch.
Unfortunately, the same article tried to loop in ear cropping without any evidence for it. Just a "well if tails do that, so will ears" with nothing to support it. Go read the study they link to, it says nothing about ears, just tails. Here is another look at that study:
https://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=64bb6ba6-3b23-4da9-9466-abd1a6f2587c
Ok so now we all know, docking tails = possibly a more aggressive dog. Oh and we have a claim that cropping the ears might be similar to docking tails, although again nothing beyond a claim. We still have no proof that ear cropping makes the dog a BETTER fighter or more FEROCIOUS, not to mention any proof at all that the INTENT of an owner to do this is to make his dog a better fighter or more ferocious. You could, I suppose, argue that aggression = ferocity, but in the case of my pomeranian, he is very aggressive, but I would by no stretch call him ferocious. As soon as the fight is on, he turns tail and runs.
So where is the proof that cropping ears makes a dog more FEROCIOUS and a BETTER FIGHTER.
I highlighted those last 2 because all you have proven so far is that docking tails is bad (agreed), which they do NOT do to pitbulls, and that in the PAST bulls had cropped ears to protect them in a fight. Nothing to prove that intent in modern times, nor to prove your claims that I highlighted.
I did like your attempt to further your stereotype by adding in the hick commentary. Nice ad hominem. Proves nothing, but it’s a nice touch.
And here is stubby today: https://americanhistory.si.edu/militaryhistory/collection/object.asp?ID=15
SaltyDawg
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I guess in your world if you ignore it then it doesn't exist?
https://btoellner.typepad.com/kcdogblog/aggression/
"Interestingly, she brought up her huge dislike of things like cropped ears and tail-docking. When a dog has cropped ears, the ears are always in an "up and forward" position. Other dogs will almost always interpret a dog with cropped ears as being in a distance-increasing posture, which can lead to the other dog mirroring that behavior -- which leads to two dogs in more aggressive-type positions. It is hard not to think that the popularity of ear-cropping in 'pit bull' breeds has actually caused some of the "dog aggression" issues that people perceive because it actually spurs other dogs to react less invitingly to the dog with cropped ears, which can spur a little more rivalry between a couple of dogs. I also wonder if ear-cropping had something to do with Randall Lockwood's initial thoughts on "pit bulls' back in the mid-80s when he said that pit bulls didn't give warning signs before attacking -- because one of the major "warning signs" would be ear position -- and I don't know how much we understood about canine behavior when it comes to body position subtleties in the 1980s."
Now, I ask again, what the heck have you proven? Posting a bunch of quotes form people saying they cropped the ears with no intention to fight the dog does not change the fact that ear cropping was invented to make the dog a better fighter. And yes, preventing damage during a fight does make the dog a better fighter, so you can drop that absurd contention.
Because your position that they're ALL time bombs is so fair and balanced.