He definitely thinks before he speaks a lot and it can get really bad sometimes. *See deleted tweet with the cop picture before knowing the entire story*
Sweet sweet Lakers tears
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He definitely thinks before he speaks a lot and it can get really bad sometimes. *See deleted tweet with the cop picture before knowing the entire story*
Sure, but this goes beyond that. You can translate his China comments to “How dare someone stand for human rights if it even threatens how much money we make?”
Didn’t the entire NBA basically agree with LeBron? I even recall Harden saying to China that the Rockets are sorry. If I’m totally off here please let me know.
Mongoose
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I'm pretty sure LeBron has been the acting GM on most teams he has played on- selecting coaches and trading for players. He is a terrible GM and mostly his teams have had success before he has a chance to screw things up. Once he has screwed teams up he signs somewhere else in free agency leaving teams holding the bag.
DasJazz
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Cry me some more Lebron tears mmmkay?
That definitely wasn’t pre-2010. LeBron never leaves without a championship first so I don’t think it’s that big of a deal.
You ain’t wrong, and it’s a flashpoint that demonstrates how wildly selfish NBA players as a whole are.
What separates LeBron is instead of dodging the issue or doing the bare minimum to not offend the Chinese, he attacked the one dude who did the right thing FOR BEING SELFISH of all things.
But yes, the league as a whole were cowards about this. It’s worth noting that Gobert has came out in support of the Uighurs and we should all appreciate him for being a real one.
LeBron dissed us at the all-star game and look who got the last laugh. Only took one round.
It was pretty interesting to watch him resort to the equivalent of "shut up and dribble!"
Yeah, because the league takes a huge hit on China being a major revenue source and everyone who feigned courage by voicing support for popular causes went to intentional radio silence. Granted, a lot of people may not have opinions on this, but people went out of there way for "no comment."
Rudy deserves a lot of props for this. As far as I know, he's the only player that's had any interaction with this, even if it was just a Twitter like.
And I haven't talked about this much, but whatever...
I don't care what people do with their platform. They have that ability. Historically, people would try to steer away from controversial issues or anything political. This has obviously changed over the last 10 years. There's been more discussion about politics and old norms were thrown out under the idea that it's not just politics but it's about human decency. As athletes were more outspoken on political issues, other associated sources started to become more vocal, as well, such as Woj. Woj used to retweet and like a lot of political things. Overall, despite some level of discussion about this, none of these were "unsafe" positions. Meaning criticizing Trump on Twitter wasn't going to be something that would jeopardize one's career. So while it may create some discussion, doing that wouldn't be "dangerous" to one's career, else they wouldn't have done it. That changed when Morey retweeted about Hong Kong. I believe Woj even liked that post. When the blowback came, nobody dared say anything about China, knowing its significant role in NBA revenue streams, particularly in the future. Doing so would actually have people being feared blacklisted. I think this was an eye opening experience for a handful of different NBA media types who previously had appeared outspoken on political issues, where they realized that they wouldn't dare speak up on those issues and must have had some level of self-awareness that their previous "courage" in standing up against issues that were safe to stand up against was really a faux courage, and you now see Woj and some others not being vocal about the issues they were in the past, at least in the same way.
But, yes. It's easy to be courageous when it doesn't really come at a cost and gives one elevated social clout to do so. It's not so easy to do that when it affects your bottom line and when you have massive social pressure to not do so. It's easy to be a hero when it's easy.
I don't care what people do with their platform. They have that ability. Historically, people would try to steer away from controversial issues or anything political. This has obviously changed over the last 10 years. There's been more discussion about politics and old norms were thrown out under the idea that it's not just politics but it's about human decency. As athletes were more outspoken on political issues, other associated sources started to become more vocal, as well, such as Woj. Woj used to retweet and like a lot of political things. Overall, despite some level of discussion about this, none of these were "unsafe" positions. Meaning criticizing Trump on Twitter wasn't going to be something that would jeopardize one's career. So while it may create some discussion, doing that wouldn't be "dangerous" to one's career, else they wouldn't have done it. That changed when Morey retweeted about Hong Kong. I believe Woj even liked that post. When the blowback came, nobody dared say anything about China, knowing its significant role in NBA revenue streams, particularly in the future. Doing so would actually have people being feared blacklisted. I think this was an eye opening experience for a handful of different NBA media types who previously had appeared outspoken on political issues, where they realized that they wouldn't dare speak up on those issues and must have had some level of self-awareness that their previous "courage" in standing up against issues that were safe to stand up against was really a faux courage, and you now see Woj and some others not being vocal about the issues they were in the past, at least in the same way.
But, yes. It's easy to be courageous when it doesn't really come at a cost and gives one elevated social clout to do so. It's not so easy to do that when it affects your bottom line and when you have massive social pressure to not do so. It's easy to be a hero when it's easy.
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Yeah I think Lebron is just showing how incredibly selfish he is. It compounds and adds up for me. I still respect him and think he's an amazing player, but he's taking some hits imo.
LOL at someone saying Harden apologized for the China stuff. He has no idea what is happening... that's the guy that showed up to the bubble with the Blue Lives Matter mask because he like the design. Harden is not the guy to look to... I think he cares about basketball and strip clubs and thats about it.