Official Rudy Gobert Trade Ideas Thread
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Why do the need Rudy? They have budget Rudy.
Agreed. They made sense a year ago, but they have no reason to take our call right now.
Ineptimusprime
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There are a lot of teams desperate to make the playoffs out there…
stormkoopacv03
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Ingles, Niang and O'Neal should go too. They always do nothing for the Jazz during the playoffs. Bodan and Clarkson I'd rather keep around again for sure.
Ineptimusprime
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The reasons you want to keep Bojan and Clarkson are the same reasons why they have trade value.
We keep O’Neale for sure. We can and should just let Niang walk because he’s a free agent. Ingles might have some trade value, but he is aging. A team looking for cap space next year might want him because he is expiring, but we won’t get anything significant for Ingles.
DasJazz
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Yeah but we have budget Zion with Udoka.
JazzyBelle
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Disgusting people want to trade heart and soul of the team all because the coach didn't sit him when Clippers went small ball..
I'd like to point out most around here wanted Conley gone last year and this year he big reason they had best record
I'd like to point out most around here wanted Conley gone last year and this year he big reason they had best record
JazzyBelle
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Everyone wants to keep avoiding the truth that you can't win with a High Volume Scorer as your best player. Gilbert Arenas, TMac,Carmelo, D.Wilkins all say hello. All was all stars, all won lot of regular season games and come playoff time all went home early. I know Donovan is loved here in Utah but we need to look at history that you can't win with a player like him. Best thing he could do is start training with Stockton or a Point guard in general. He needs to learn to play make for others because Jazz to easy to guard. Force Donovan to shoot alot and lock all others up. It's what Nuggets did in game 7, Clippers in Game 6. People will bash me but just wait until Four more years of this and then y'all will see where I was coming from
JazzyBelle
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Ingles has about zero trade value. Once again he was exposed in playoffs. Just like last year..
JazzyBelle
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Bingo. I don't get Rudy hate. Everyone in league knows he can't guard guards but Quinn left him out there
NAOS
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I’ve made this comparison before, but it’s been awhile so here it goes.
I’ve been a NE Patriots fan for 30ish years, so I watched the entire Tom Brady era. There were several seasons where the FO played extreme moneyball on the offensive side—squeezing as much value/advantage/talent out of Brady as possible and parlaying the savings into the defense (without ignoring the offensive line). There were years when they took this mentality to the extreme.... almost as if they were determined to find the limits. These weren’t championship teams, but they were successful in the regular season.
Anyway, the jazz have explored the same mentality. They’ve moneyballed the **** out of one side of the ball around Gobert... and parlayed it into the best offensive pieces they could find. It didn’t work. It won’t work. I’ve been telling you it won’t.
Within 5 minutes of the Clippers finding their stride with small ball—it was some time in game 3—the entire series swung on a dime. When that kind of thing happens, and you’re playing MoneyBudBall, then u ****ed.
We’ve needed a 4-5 combo for how many seasons now? It’s as true right now as it was 3-4 years ago. And now that the lean years are coming—repeater taxes, carving the roster and/or losing Conley for nothing, etc.—that player is further from our doorstep.
I was vocal in my opposition to Conley for many of these reasons. He committed us to this very leveraged brand of basketball. And now that his contract is over, we will probably remain leveraged whether he returns or not.
I’ve been a NE Patriots fan for 30ish years, so I watched the entire Tom Brady era. There were several seasons where the FO played extreme moneyball on the offensive side—squeezing as much value/advantage/talent out of Brady as possible and parlaying the savings into the defense (without ignoring the offensive line). There were years when they took this mentality to the extreme.... almost as if they were determined to find the limits. These weren’t championship teams, but they were successful in the regular season.
Anyway, the jazz have explored the same mentality. They’ve moneyballed the **** out of one side of the ball around Gobert... and parlayed it into the best offensive pieces they could find. It didn’t work. It won’t work. I’ve been telling you it won’t.
Within 5 minutes of the Clippers finding their stride with small ball—it was some time in game 3—the entire series swung on a dime. When that kind of thing happens, and you’re playing MoneyBudBall, then u ****ed.
We’ve needed a 4-5 combo for how many seasons now? It’s as true right now as it was 3-4 years ago. And now that the lean years are coming—repeater taxes, carving the roster and/or losing Conley for nothing, etc.—that player is further from our doorstep.
I was vocal in my opposition to Conley for many of these reasons. He committed us to this very leveraged brand of basketball. And now that his contract is over, we will probably remain leveraged whether he returns or not.
JazzyBelle
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I watched multiple centers attack Clippers Defense for lack of size. Even Gobert had stretches where he was all over the boards. They should gets him some easy lobs like Capela gets in Atlanta. The offensive system isn't good enough to win in playoffs. I would build around Donovan and Rudy and look for a 3rd star , I would look for a PG and push Donovan to the 2 spot or you can run Dom at the 1 and get a solid 3. They need to get Rudy involved on offensive end too. This living and dying on 3s and Donovan shooting 30 times a game is a recipe to go home early in playoffs
You need to wake the **** up. We will never get close to a title with Gobert on the team eating 1/3 of the salary cap. He got exposed so bad last night it was embarrassing.
Bawse Dawg
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lmfao. Go ahead and show us the examples of teams winning built around a center who has zero offensive moves. Especially in the small ball, perimeter era. The ‘heart and soul’ of our team needs to be way less soft. Couldn’t punish the Clippers whatsoever for going super small. That’s a massive problem.
Blaming Don… again, just lmfao.
NAOS
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I love Rudy. I think the problems are mostly with the flexibility/limits of the roster DL/Zanik have put around him + the Bud Ball mentality of Quin and his staff. There’s a black mark on Quin’s house for what he let happen in the 3rd quarter of that game. It was the tragic height of Bud Ball.
Unfortunately, you have to start listening to Rudy trade scenarios. I think this core has one season left before a shake up.
I think ATL could talk themselves into it. They’re going to need to consolidate some assets in the next year or so.
The GSW idea could have some realism—but I would hope they could find a third team for Wiggins.
Unfortunately, you have to start listening to Rudy trade scenarios. I think this core has one season left before a shake up.
I think ATL could talk themselves into it. They’re going to need to consolidate some assets in the next year or so.
The GSW idea could have some realism—but I would hope they could find a third team for Wiggins.
Bawse Dawg
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Rudy is fine. Tripling down on traditional centers instead of going after a real small ball counter is ****ing inexcusable.
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