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A few words about Gobert (n the media/common reaction) to his play this series..

Ersan should have played...ERSAN can stretch, renbound, and guard OK, not great, but decently. Snyder stubborn as ****.

doesn't help that nobody could stay in front of their defender.
 
yamers said:
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Legler is a moron.

The reason we got torched from 3 isn't because Gobert can't guard the perimeter. It's because the gameplan was to keep him parked in the paint no matter the cost. And the cost was big. But Gobert had to be in the paint because nobody on the Jazz could keep their man in front of them.

That having been said, Gobert played like garbage and had several inexcuseable mental lapses that sparked the Clippers comeback.
 
Lord Bullingdon said:
So i just wanted to say that Rudy is obviously catching a lot of undue flack...


way too much tbh...

around here too...

Specifically the idea that he didnt do his job n do it well. I aint buyin that ****. I see lots of other lesser players doing jack **** n it being reflected in peoples opinions of rudy's play.
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Shaq is a mumbling insecure black shrek who cares what he thinks? He’s so threatened by every current modem big man because he has a micro wang. Poor guy.
 
Max Porter said:
Shaq is a mumbling insecure black shrek who cares what he thinks? He’s so threatened by every current modem big man because he has a micro wang. Poor guy.
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this is a terrible comment from a sheltered user n u should feel bad for lacking enough life experience to the point where ud type such a thing n still press enter..

its weird how u use the words black n shrek and attempt to take a bunch of different things n try to paint them in one color for the sake of ur ****** unfunny joke..

obviously the themes presented in the childrens movie shrek were too complex for you and didnt absorb or went over your head

why do you feel the need to draw comparison based on skin color? 'black shrek' ? am i speaking to someone who didnt grow up around any black people at all? sure sounds like it... how is him being black relevant to your joke, is it supposed to add an extra layer of humor? its a hard-hitting detail that helps sell the punchline?
 
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Nope... When a 7'2" guy making nearly max at 200 mill is a liability because he has zero offense and can be guarded by a turkey sandwich it's time he gets the clue. He's been here 8 years now and has not a single, not even one, offensive move. That's inexcusable for one of the highest paid guys in the league.

Edit and I agree with said poster above in how Rudy was not the problem on defense as I think the other 7-8 guys have become downright lazy and insanely soft on defense. They've gotten spoiled having Rudy back there making up for their inability to stay in front of prettymuch anybody. I don't fault him for his d, but his lack of being able to create anything on offense(outside of using his body for screens) is downright terrible.
 
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SteakNEggs said:
Nope... When a 7'2" guy making nearly max at 200 mill is a liability because he has zero offense and can be guarded by a turkey sandwich it's time he gets the clue. He's been here 8 years now and has not a single, not even one, offensive move. That's inexcusable for one of the highest paid guys in the league.
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The play that will always stick out to me. It was a few minutes left.

They built a lead and we fought back to get it to 3. Clarkson drove, put it off the glass, and it rolled along the rim.

Rudy was in perfect position directly under the ball. He was at least 4 inches taller than anybody on the court. With his massive standing reach, he had at least a foot advantage over anybody on the court.

The ball rolled to him, and it seemed like he caught it, and then it seemed like he lowered it to then take it back up, and he lost it somewhere on the way down or way back up.

They took the rebound the other way and scored. An automatic 1 point game and probable Clipper timeout turned into a 5 point game and a Utah timeout.

Thats the closest we ever got. I just don't understand how that happens. I will never forget that play. A clear sign to me that Rudy can't be guaranteed to do anything on offense.

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There was a play when clips passed to Mann in the corner and rudy just turned around, mike saw it but he was too late to contest the shot. Mann made the wide open 3. Rudy gave up!
 
MT Steve said:
Legler is a moron.

The reason we got torched from 3 isn't because Gobert can't guard the perimeter. It's because the gameplan was to keep him parked in the paint no matter the cost. And the cost was big. But Gobert had to be in the paint because nobody on the Jazz could keep their man in front of them.

That having been said, Gobert played like garbage and had several inexcuseable mental lapses that sparked the Clippers comeback.
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SteakNEggs said:
Nope... When a 7'2" guy making nearly max at 200 mill is a liability because he has zero offense and can be guarded by a turkey sandwich it's time he gets the clue. He's been here 8 years now and has not a single, not even one, offensive move. That's inexcusable for one of the highest paid guys in the league.

Edit and I agree with said poster above in how Rudy was not the problem on defense as I think the other 7-8 guys have become downright lazy and insanely soft on defense. They've gotten spoiled having Rudy back there making up for their inability to stay in front of prettymuch anybody. I don't fault him for his d, but his lack of being able to create anything on offense(outside of using his body for screens) is downright terrible.
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When they go small, we gotta make pay by dunking on their heads every time down the court. A dunk or a sure bucket every trip has got to be the price they pay for spreading us out.

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Game6Conley said:
this is a terrible comment from a sheltered user n u should feel bad for lacking enough life experience to the point where ud type such a thing n still press enter..

its weird how u use the words black n shrek and attempt to take a bunch of different things n try to paint them in one color for the sake of ur ****** unfunny joke..

obviously the themes presented in the childrens movie shrek were too complex for you and didnt absorb or went over your head

why do you feel the need to draw comparison based on skin color? 'black shrek' ? am i speaking to someone who didnt grow up around any black people at all? sure sounds like it... how is him being black relevant to your joke, is it supposed to add an extra layer of humor? its a hard-hitting detail that helps sell the punchline?
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I mean, Shaw’s not green. You’re making a bigger deal out of this than was necessary.
 
If Rudy could just hold on to the ball, it would make a big difference in his offense. Strengthening his hands and improving his ability to catch the ball can be improved by practice. But apparently Rudy doesn't work on that or acknowledge this. Not only that but when they surround him under the basket, all he needs to do is use some force and go up with the ball and he will get the foul call. But instead he just stands there with the ball over his head and gets stripped.
 
Game6Conley said:
I am steadfast in the belief that the C position is the one that is the most distorted in the minds of the common fans..

Shaq saying the things he says postgame doesnt help at all really..

this whole thing is in that same vein
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I just watched game 5 again and Gobert was totally ignored in the offensive scheme, particularly second half. This is against a team that has gone small ball on us and we should be pounding it in the paint and instead we’ve gone three ball loco. Gobert is literally running around with his hand up calling for the ball and not getting it. Same thing in game six, where I assumed Conley might be able to get Gobert involved. At every level, you have to get your bigs involved offensively to keep them involved defensively.
 
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Release the Kraken said:
I just watched game 5 again and Gobert was totally ignored in the offensively scheme, particularly second half. This is against a team that has gone small ball on us and we should be pounding it in the paint and instead we’ve gone three ball loco. Gobert is literally running around with his hand up calling for the ball and not getting it. Same thing in game six, where I assumed Conley might be able to get Gobert involved. At every level, you have to get your bigs involved offensively to keep them involved defensively.
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Kraken is spot on. I don't really understand the Rudy bashing on offense, when he literally never got a pass the entire series. Jazz didn't make any attempt at all to get him the ball, and flat out ignored him many times when he was wide open on roles. I know he is not a traditional post up guy, but we should have made some attempts. Sometimes Beaverly switched onto him and the team made no attempt at getting him the ball. Rudy is also and under rated passer and is pretty good at kicking it back out to shooters.
 
With Rudy it is not just one thing on offense or defense for that matter.

Starts with the style of offense where unless the lob is there his position is not really looked at to be an option much.

Next coaching, they have to emphasize it to the players when they see it is being missed. (although some times it does seem like when they finally look for Rudy it is forced, ends up a TO so they then can stop looking)

Players being able to see, recognize and then execute the pass to Rudy and it seems like every NBA player should have that skill but it has become a bit of a lost art in today's game.

Rudy needs to be stronger with the ball, meaning hands in catching it and maintaining his positioning.

My biggest beef with Rudy is how much he gets pushed around, especially on the glass this series. I mean it happened all season but way worse this series. So many times he is under the rim and in some cases gets pushed so for under he's under the back board, the only shots you get in those 2 spots are made shots, which sadly do not count as rebounds or Rudy would have had 20 not 10. I get being limited offensively but at his size he should've dominated the boards more, 10rb is not dominating that's bare minimum when LAC go small. If he's not able to get the rebound when the other team goes small it should be because the other team has 3 people keeping him out of position which then should open the door for the rest of the team to get the rebound. Which is definitely a team problem the Jazz have (sadly Ingles is prolly the worst on the team in this aspect).
 
I also meant to add, I get it's hard to stay mentally and physically locked in as is needed when you don't get the ball, which was also part of the LAC game plan and so that played a role in Rudy really only having 1 game where he dominated the boards (game 2 with 20 I believe).

Also feel the Jazz could've gotten Fav's the ball more (when not matched up against Zubac at least) and he will almost always catch the ball Favors is strong enough to finish but unselfish that he would force up garbage and may have kicked it to the open 3pt shooter.
 
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