Bogey/Clarkson/Royce/30 along with our 2024 1st, 2026 1st and 2028 1st.
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Report: Dame plans to request a trade in coming days
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Now if they are tearing it down I would trade Clarkson/30 for Covington in a heartbeat.
People can call me nuts if they want, but Utah is absolutely gonna try and get in on this trade.
Sure Portland doesn’t want to keep Dame out west- and within the division no less, but they are absolutely going to listen to Dame’s input on where he’d like to go and will accommodate him if they can get a good enough package in return. As far as trading him within the division, it will be pretty easy for Portland to sell the fact that this move puts them in rebuild/asset acquisition mode and their timeline basically resets the moment they trade him.
They could tell Utah “No”, turn around and trade him to New York, and it wouldn’t change the fact that Portland won’t be contending for **** until Dame is in the twilight of his career anyway.
There’s just too much smoke on this one: Dame’s a West Coast guy. He has no interest in going east. He’s already gone on record saying that the Jazz and Lakers are the other organizations he’d consider playing for. He loves Weber State and the Ogden area and spends time up there every offseason. He’s got a good relationship with Donovan. And lastly, THIS VERY SCENARIO is exactly why Ryan Smith gave D-Wade a sweetheart deal to become part owner. D-Wade’s official title should be: Head of Recruiting.
The Jazz might come up short in their efforts, but Ryan Smith is going to do everything within his power to try and make this happen.
Sure Portland doesn’t want to keep Dame out west- and within the division no less, but they are absolutely going to listen to Dame’s input on where he’d like to go and will accommodate him if they can get a good enough package in return. As far as trading him within the division, it will be pretty easy for Portland to sell the fact that this move puts them in rebuild/asset acquisition mode and their timeline basically resets the moment they trade him.
They could tell Utah “No”, turn around and trade him to New York, and it wouldn’t change the fact that Portland won’t be contending for **** until Dame is in the twilight of his career anyway.
There’s just too much smoke on this one: Dame’s a West Coast guy. He has no interest in going east. He’s already gone on record saying that the Jazz and Lakers are the other organizations he’d consider playing for. He loves Weber State and the Ogden area and spends time up there every offseason. He’s got a good relationship with Donovan. And lastly, THIS VERY SCENARIO is exactly why Ryan Smith gave D-Wade a sweetheart deal to become part owner. D-Wade’s official title should be: Head of Recruiting.
The Jazz might come up short in their efforts, but Ryan Smith is going to do everything within his power to try and make this happen.
To get out of his last contract he would have had to make himself look absolutely horrible, take a qualifying offer vs his first giant $160 million payday. Getting out before your restricted free agency is unheard of. The supermax, there is plenty of precedent for turning it down, and he can opt out a year later, and has the leverage to demand a trade at that point, and he knows he'll be traded if he turns it down. If he actually signed it (he won't) it would show a willingness to stay, when he didn't have to.
Let me again point you to the 3:38-4:06 mark in this live from the other day in regards to "you gotta get out of Utah". "Bro I don't wanna turn into some like" is the most "I want to leave but won't because I don't want to look bad" vibe you could have.
A positive to Dame to NY would be this. It takes up their cap space for the foreseeable future and they'll have to give up all those assets they have. If Dame ends up in NY, it hurts their chance of getting Donovan.
LoPo
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If I'm Portland, and Dame really does demand a trade, I go ahead and trade it all. Forget trying to get players to keep a mediocre team going.
McCollum is 30 before the new season and he's got a massive contract.
Covington is 30 and an expiring contract.
Nurkic is an expiring contract.
Powell could leave this summer.
Ben Simmons or Jaylen Brown wouldn't take them anywhere different. If I'm Portland, I consider that Golden State deal. I hate it for the rest of the NBA, but Wiseman plus 2 lottery picks this year plus a couple picks down the road is enticing.
Then trade McCollum to somewhere like Cleveland for Love, Sexton and more picks.
Then trade Covington for another pick.
If the fixes I’ve seen rumored happen with the next CBA it will improve it. Only count as a normal max against the cap, and also the player cannot be traded the first 2 years of the contract.
LoPo
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It's too bad Rudy isn't available for a trade until October. If he was, we could have a legit chance to pull off a 3 team trade should Dame make it clear he wants Utah.
Then we could try to trade Bojan for Myles Turner.
Then trade JC for Kuzma.
Keep Conley.
Don
Dame
Royce
Kuzma
Turner
Conley
Joe
Then we could try to trade Bojan for Myles Turner.
Then trade JC for Kuzma.
Keep Conley.
Don
Dame
Royce
Kuzma
Turner
Conley
Joe
Udidthizz
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I don’t think that’s possible. We’d have to s&t Conley and I believe you can’t package a s&t player. I don’t see how seperate trades would work. If it was possible, I probably would though.
LoPo
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Oh, I'm just throwing stuff out there. I don't think we really have a realistic shot. We could get involved as a 3rd team getting something else, but I just don't see us getting Dame in any scenario. He would literally have to come out and say he wants to play for us. I don't see that happening.
And really, I don't see Dame and Don being a great pairing unless we brought Covington with Dame and got more perimeter defending.
Udidthizz
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Nurkic has said something along the lines that if Dame leaves, he will too. Guess we’re trading for Dame & Nurk.
And while we’re at it, I’ll take Roco too.
Which is why him refuting it seems like he probably got a hold of Dame right when he saw it reported. Nurk has flat out said he won't be back without Dame. I believe Nurk's money is not guaranteed next year and he can be a free agent if he truly wanted. So it seems like Nurk likely got a hold of Lillard the second he saw all this and wanted to know so he could start making his own decisions. Dame must have told him it wasn't true. Also Haynes reported Dame is going to address this report after Team USA practice today at 1:30 our time I believe.
Udidthizz
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That’s the great thing about off season/draft season. You get to feel like a kid in a candy store imagining any player you like coming to the Jazz!
I don’t know if it would work, but I’d love to see Don and Dame together. Having two guys who can go off for 50+ on any given night should be quite something.
If you have Dame and Donovan, but no Rudy, we are just a slightly better Portland team, and Portland is not as good as we currently are, in large part because they don't have Rudy.
Udidthizz
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Nurk’s contract is partially guaranteed at 4m. Let’s just go for a complete Blazers-Jazz merger. In Utah ofcourse under the Jazz name.
I really do think the league needs to address this idea if players demanding trades or buyouts with multiple years left on a contract. I’m all for player empowerment and understand that teams can (mostly) trade a player at any time, but this is getting to the point where it defeats the point of a contract. Players get guaranteed money but teams to not get the guaranteed player.
It is clear the “super max” did not accomplish its intent so I do hope they remove that from future CBAs. I
It is clear the “super max” did not accomplish its intent so I do hope they remove that from future CBAs. I
The majority of owners will start to raise a stink about it. There's only a handful of owners who this benefits and the other 25 or so have to be growing tired of it. You could go as far as implementing a rule that if you sign a full max or supermax extension, you can't be traded by team or player choice for the first 3 or 4 years of that contract. It really is getting to a point contracts are totally meaningless, and that's beyond just player empowerment. At some point owners will swing the pendulum back. The whole Harden situation really started creating a lot of tension for Silver from some things I read, and this? Well this has potential to really set off some fires if true. Dame won't go to the lengths Harden did though. It will be interesting because the Blazers are in every position here to fight back, and Dame's public image is something he won't burn to the ground just to get moved(Portland has to know that). If he asks for a trade, hold firm and don't do it. At some point the other side of this issue has to start using their own leverage, and Portlands leverage is, say no, and if Dame wants to make an *** out of himself, let him for a year or two before you trade him.