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rjfan said:
Trading Joe should be one of those big prick moments from fo, and an idea that i hate too, but from a basketball perspective, he's not impactful on postseason games, against different teams, both in terms of level and schemes, as a playmaker he can't exploit switches nor blitz, and as a defender he can't be a stopper on guards or wings nor rebound, and he's not a scorer either.

What in hell is his value, or the value of a Bogdanovic who can't dribble, or a Favors who can't jump, that's another question, but at least his contract has only one year left, so it should be easier to move.
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Joes numbers in the Clippers series: 13.7 points, 54% from the field, 45% from 3, 4 assists, 3.3 rebounds, 4.8 assist/turnover ratio, only 5 turnovers in 171 minutes played and every single one of those minutes he was either our secondary or primary ballhandler. Call me crazy but that seems pretty impactful.
 
I’d definitely move Favors and Bogey, but it’d take a really, really good deal for me to want to move Ingles.

Ingles is by far the most versatile player of the three. Also, what are the odds he retires after next year.
 
Ineptimusprime said:
I’d definitely move Favors and Bogey, but it’d take a really, really good deal for me to want to move Ingles.

Ingles is by far the most versatile player of the three. Also, what are the odds he retires after next year.
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If this is truly Joe's last NBA season, it would be an absolute shame if we traded him. On the list of trade preference, I put it like...

In order of who I would trade least:
Don
Joe
Royce
Rudy
Conley (if he re-signed)
JC
Bojan
Doke
Favors

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rjfan said:
Trading Joe should be one of those big prick moments from fo, and an idea that i hate too, but from a basketball perspective, he's not impactful on postseason games, against different teams, both in terms of level and schemes, as a playmaker he can't exploit switches nor blitz, and as a defender he can't be a stopper on guards or wings nor rebound, and he's not a scorer either.

What in hell is his value, or the value of a Bogdanovic who can't dribble, or a Favors who can't jump, that's another question, but at least his contract has only one year left, so it should be easier to move
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Please go look at Joe’s postseason numbers this year… then continue the conversation. Joe was fine but because he was pushed into a bigger creation role because Mike was out it didn’t go as well. We also played a team that had enough wings to switch everything and cause issues… Joe was still solid. Joe wasn’t at the top of the list of postseason problems at all.
 
Ineptimusprime said:
I’d definitely move Favors and Bogey, but it’d take a really, really good deal for me to want to move Ingles.

Ingles is by far the most versatile player of the three. Also, what are the odds he retires after next year.
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I'd say the odds of him retiring after next season are very high.
 
rjfan said:
Trading Joe should be one of those big prick moments from fo, and an idea that i hate too, but from a basketball perspective, he's not impactful on postseason games, against different teams, both in terms of level and schemes, as a playmaker he can't exploit switches nor blitz, and as a defender he can't be a stopper on guards or wings nor rebound, and he's not a scorer either.

What in hell is his value, or the value of a Bogdanovic who can't dribble, or a Favors who can't jump, that's another question, but at least his contract has only one year left, so it should be easier to move
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An Ingles trade would be thinking with your brain not your heart
 
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LoPo said:
If this is truly Joe's last NBA season, it would be an absolute shame if we traded him. On the list of trade preference, I put it like...

In order of who I would trade least:
Don
Joe
Royce
Rudy
Conley (if he re-signed)
JC
Bojan
Doke
Favors

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I would absolutely trade Royce before Rudy.
 
The thought of them doing a 'run it back' idea with the same team intact is absolutely hilarious. Other top contender teams will improve their rosters and if the Jazz stay the same, it'll definitely be a 1st rd exit this time. And then, they'll just lose Donovan via trade request by him. Jazz need to make big changes if they want to contend. Right now, they're just a regular season team and then nothing to show for in the playoffs.
 
stormkoopacv03 said:
The thought of them doing a 'run it back' idea with the same team intact is absolutely hilarious. Other top contender teams will improve their rosters and if the Jazz stay the same, it'll definitely be a 1st rd exit this time. And then, they'll just lose Donovan via trade request by him. Jazz need to make big changes if they want to contend. Right now, they're just a regular season time and then nothing to show for in the playoffs.
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I agree.

I think the last two post-seasons have proven that we simply don't have the type players resilient enough to make it through a playoffs.

Bojan and Mike were hurt in 2020.

Mike and Don were hurt in 2021.

We have one of the oldest cores in the NBA. Joe, Mike, Favors and Bojan are old. JC and Rudy are approaching 30 and have avoided injuries so far. Don is built well, but we ask so much of him.

Not only are we injury prone, but we lack the bulldogs a title team needs. We are too passive. Too content. We aren't tough.

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