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LoPo said:
I'm still on board with @Wes Mantooth and his idea of trading Bogey for Rozier.

Charlotte has LaMelo and they can re-sign Graham. They lack a good floor spreading SF/PF. Rozier is in a contract year so Charlotte might sell low.

If we could make it Bogey AND Favors for Rozier, I would do that too. That would save us $11 million. I could see Charlotte open to the idea.

We need the toughness, heart and defense Rozier would provide. If Conley stays, we trade Clarkson.

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No trade Bojan for LaMelo then trade the Jazz name to NOP for Lonzo. Sign LiAngelo. Rename the team LaVar’s Balls.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I would love it if they took a shot at getting Barton.

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How? He didn’t leave that money on the table to take less? He likely gets a long term deal from the Nuggets.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
How? He didn’t leave that money on the table to take less? He likely gets a long term deal from the Nuggets.
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I don't know, you figure it out. Trade Bogey, release some people, let Mike go, whatevs. I would just love to get Barton.
 
Ineptimusprime said:
According to TJ yesterday on Spence Checketts’ podcast, the only three guys on our roster with positive trade value are Don, Rudy, and Royce.

If that’s true, their trade value really can’t get much lower if it’s already rock bottom, right?

Also, there’s no way JC doesn’t have trade value. Bogey is also completely worth his contract, so no idea why he wouldn’t have positive value for a “win now” team looking for shooting and scoring.
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I don’t see that as true. You may not love what you get in a bogey or JC trade but doesn’t mean they have negative value. TJ has some sources but most of the stuff he has nailed has been because he has a relationship with Favs. Outside of that he states fairly obvious vanilla takes. I don’t put a ton of stock into his takes.
 
We have plenty of guys who have trade value. The issue is that what we'd be able to get back for them doesn't fit very specific needs that we have, unless you're stripping things down quite a bit. Ergo, simply trading Clarkson or Bojan likely won't return you the type of return you're looking for. Or, if it does, it's not going to return you enough of that value to justify it. If you were making a few of those trades and completely retooling and straight up looking for value rather than something very specific, then maybe it could work if you could change your concept and fit new pieces together, but with our current coach good luck with that. Then Rudy. Yes, Rudy has value, but he's not nearly as valuable to anyone else as he is to us, so that's really a non-starter. Our best bet is trying to shore up around the edges like DL should have done last year. The bigger problem is coaching flexibility, which isn't really changing, so I don't know what to say about that.
 




That player option is gonna come to be every bit as important as I bitched it would be lol. Ain’t no way you have time to switch paths a year from now with only 1/2 viable years on your super stars contract. That’s 3rd year would help. A lot.

Yes let’s push this team that won’t win a title one more year down the road, have Joe coming off for nothing, having everyone get a year older and less value, and THEN THEN let’s try to change course. This team isn’t winning a title as is, and when we get ousted in round 2 next postseason, and everything is in a worse place, we can make this all even more worthless. The Lakers are better than us. The Nuggets are slightly better than us. The Nets are undoubtably a horrible matchup that would torch us if we ever did get there. This year is like a once in a decade opportunity and they blew it as hard as they could. There’s many teams coming that are equal, but like come on. THIS was this teams shot and they folded.
 
Tony's response to the rumors that Joe or Bogey could be moved this offseason.



 
Running it back idea is just simply making it easier for Donovan to decide on leaving the Jazz much sooner imho. It won't work and we'll have another Dame situation in Utah as well. If the new owner is all in making big changes then do it!
 
stormkoopacv03 said:
Running it back idea is just simply making it easier for Donovan to decide on leaving the Jazz much sooner imho. It won't work and we'll have another Dame situation in Utah as well. If the new owner is all in making big changes then do it!
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I agree with this. If Don truly is potentially thinking of leaving eventually (not just oneye speculation), this season could speed up that process.

I just still question the Rudy and Don dynamic. If Don ends up leaving, it's more because of that than anything else. It's Rudy's team, but Don is the superstar. Eventually, that's an issue for every "alpha" type player.

I don't think the Dame situation is a fair comparison because Dame has been the focus of that team for a long time.

Wade quickly became the focus of the Miami Heat even though the team had Mourning and Shaq. Those guys ended up deferring to Wade, and we all know they won that title early in Wade's career. Now of course Mourning and Shaq were more on the decline in their careers than Rudy is now, but the point still stands.

I just don't think Rudy wants to defer to Don, and that will lead to issues if it hasn't already.
 
LoPo said:
I agree with this. If Don truly is potentially thinking of leaving eventually (not just oneye speculation), this season could speed up that process.

I just still question the Rudy and Don dynamic. If Don ends up leaving, it's more because of that than anything else. It's Rudy's team, but Don is the superstar. Eventually, that's an issue for every "alpha" type player.

I don't think the Dame situation is a fair comparison because Dame has been the focus of that team for a long time.

Wade quickly became the focus of the Miami Heat even though the team had Mourning and Shaq. Those guys ended up deferring to Wade, and we all know they won that title early in Wade's career. Now of course Mourning and Shaq were more on the decline in their careers than Rudy is now, but the point still stands.

I just don't think Rudy wants to defer to Don, and that will lead to issues if it hasn't already.
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lmfao ok Skip Bayless
 
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