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worse than the decades post from yesterday?
Actually, yes. It's easy to overlook one election among the last 10 (of course, I never do anything like that. Never. Really. For sure. I don't know why you htink I'm overcompensting.). This was blatant science denial and misinformation. We might often disagree, and sometimes I think you're posting tactically instead of informationally, but it's rarely outright misinformation IMHO.
 
Actually, yes. It's easy to overlook one election among the last 10 (of course, I never do anything like that. Never. Really. For sure. I don't know why you htink I'm overcompensting.). This was blatant science denial and misinformation. We might often disagree, and sometimes I think you're posting tactically instead of informationally, but it's rarely outright misinformation IMHO.
I didn't fake the statistics. I can also robustly support my contention that anything other than an N95 mask doesn't do much. Being that there are no mandates on the certification of masks being used during pandemic spikes like there are on nearly every other mandated safety item (seat belts, baby car seats, motorcycle helmets, etc) it is easy to argue that effectiveness of the safety measure isn't the point.
 
Deaths are always trailing so they will tail up, but our peaks are going to be much less dynamic now that we can treat it better and a younger median age is becoming sick.

That's the lipstick on the pig anyway - still going to be a rough fall heading into what will likely be a rougher winter with some more human capital. A bit of a sad state affairs when we consider nearly 300 people from a preventable illness dying a good day.

I do have some slight worry that the markets will see some correctness downwards with continued global volatility.
 
Deaths are always trailing so they will tail up
They haven't so far. The delta variant first started infecting people 8 months ago and now make up something like 70% of new cases and in 8 months here the death rate has only gone down. Delta is more transmissible but it isn't statistically more deadly. With the delta variant, vaccinated people are catching a cold and getting over the cold. It sucks greatly if you're unvaccinated, and doubly so if you have comorbidities, so everyone should get vaccinated but for the vaccinated this isn't a health crisis. Requiring fully vaccinated people to wear unregulated cloth masks isn't about saving anyone's life.
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A bit of a sad state affairs when we consider nearly 300 people from a preventable illness dying a good day.
There are over 330 million people in the US and a lot die every day. Per the CDC over 1,900 people died per day from accidents. More people right now are dying daily from Alzheimer's than SARS-CoV-2. I'm not saying it isn't a big deal and I don't understand why some are so resistant to getting vaccinated but I also am rolling my eyes pretty hard at government reinstituting mask mandates for vaccinated people.
 
They haven't so far. The delta variant first started infecting people 8 months ago and now make up something like 70% of new cases and in 8 months here the death rate has only gone down. Delta is more transmissible but it isn't statistically more deadly. With the delta variant, vaccinated people are catching a cold and getting over the cold. It sucks greatly if you're unvaccinated, and doubly so if you have comorbidities, so everyone should get vaccinated but for the vaccinated this isn't a health crisis. Requiring fully vaccinated people to wear unregulated cloth masks isn't about saving anyone's life.
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There are over 330 million people in the US and a lot die every day. Per the CDC over 1,900 people died per day from accidents. More people right now are dying daily from Alzheimer's than SARS-CoV-2. I'm not saying it isn't a big deal and I don't understand why some are so resistant to getting vaccinated but I also am rolling my eyes pretty hard at government reinstituting mask mandates for vaccinated people.

Accidents and Alz are not communicable diseases. We can’t stop accidents from happening and we’ve poured billions into Alz research.

Simple question: do you think COVID deaths will be going up with this latest case spike?
 
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This has nothing to do with following the science. The new mask mandates are authoritarianism for the sake of authoritarianism. Deaths from SARS-CoV-2 are at their lowest point since the pandemic began.

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Everyone should get vaccinated but wearing a cloth mask does nothing but outwardly signal compliance to authority. So long as people are willing to wear them the government never has to give up emergency powers.
Wearing a mask does nothing? Flu and cold season sure was almost non existent last year for some strange reason.

Also, try putting some water in your mouth and then spit out as far as you can. Then do the same thing with mask on. See if the mask has an effect on how far the water gets.

You could do the same test with smoke.

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Requiring fully vaccinated people to wear unregulated cloth masks isn't about saving anyone's life.

What is it about then in your opinion?
I think it's about trying to make the virus spread less.

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Accident and Alz are not communicable diseases. We can’t stop accidents from happening and we’ve poured billions into Alz research.

Simple question: do you think COVID deaths will be going up with this latest spike?
The data out of the UK showed the death per 10m population going up from 1.3 to 2.1. That is technically "going up", but it is nothing as compared to the "going up" that we observed when the emergency powers were first given to the government.

I do not believe in 100% safety. I think some level of acceptable risk should be tolerated. We don't ban automobiles because people die in them every day. We do what we can to minimize accidents, to protect occupants as best as we can, and to inform drivers of the dangers, then we let people drive cars. With automobiles we tolerate some level of risk. That is good and right and as it should be. The government pumped a ton of money into vaccine development, has made the vaccine available at no cost, has informed us of the risks, and allows us to buy masks if we want. The government has done their job and now needs to get out of the way.
 
You could do the same test with smoke.
Yes you can, but you have to be very careful when posting to YouTube because those vape-smoke tests show how poorly non-N95 masks perform and get classified as against their terms of service. The smoke tests also show how Plexiglas dividers do nothing. Here is only example of one that has remained up. Remember that if you can see smoke then you are releasing virus.
 
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