Coronavirus

[JazzyFresh]

All of this was know before.

I know, I am the only one who brought this up multiple times and you said it never happened multiple times. I'd expect an apology but you'll just lie like you always do, every post. So whatever... I'm having a hard time even responding to your naiveness and garbage unintelligent one liners anymore.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Anyways after I just wasted my life on hypocrite brow again.

So it looks like Biden is transportimg not only covid (who knows what variants) but also the measles in which is extremely contagious into our country. Any non complete moron would've vetted these people months ago but you can't expect imbeciles to have my common sense approach.

 

[JazzyFresh]

So... It was and has been for smart people like me but now it's 100% fact that Fauci lied under oath about Wuhan studying gain of function research. Why is he lying? From day one he knew the lab leak theory was entirely possible but literally bullied others to stay silent and made every attempt to hide it from us? Why? What is he hiding? Is he behind this? Probably... He did guarantee this virus would happen all while paying for covid research that literally studied covid infected mice with human lungs and bat to human transmission under extremely unsafe working conditions.

The lack of flat out common sense is mind blowing.

And the sheep are silent. More worried about spreading lies that hospitals were turning down gun shot victims because it was overran with OD's like Thriller and fish pushed. Kings of misinformation.

 

[One Brow]

Every weapon in the arsenal includes all the things I mentioned.

How does Red crater the economy, shut schools down, create massive deficit spending, or destroy the fertility rate? Obviously, he can't. Your attempt to inflate what he could to into your boogey-man was bad reasoning and unfair tactics.

 

[One Brow]

I know, I am the only one who brought this up multiple times and you said it never happened multiple times.

I said there were no trials on mice? This would be a lie.

I'd expect an apology

You want me to apologize for you lying about what I said?

 

[One Brow]

... he knew the lab leak theory was entirely possible ...

That twitter thread is presenting evidence that weighs against the lab leak theory (while trying to claim Fauci lied). I know this may surprise you, but mice engineered to display human receptors are still mice, not humans.

And the sheep are silent.

You are bleating.

 

[JazzyFresh]

I said there were no trials on mice? This would be a lie.


You want me to apologize for you lying about what I said?

Yes.
Yes.

You're truly pathological.

 

[Red]

Every weapon in the arsenal includes all the things I mentioned.

Well, maybe you missed the part where I talked about applying elements within my PERSONAL arsenal:

—vaccine. Check. 2nd shot in late March.

—masks. Check. Should be using my N95, and I do in doctor’s office and the hospital. Tend to grab the blue surgical otherwise. In any case, I always wear a mask indoors in public venues.

—social distancing. Check, but a lot more lax. If a friend spots me in passing, I’m not running away or telling him to keep his distance. All my friends are vaccinated. Will not attend crowded events, indoors or out.

Now, I will look at the other things you mentioned:

“Cratering the economy”. Well, ya got me here, we are doing our small part to tank the local economy, I guess. Two weeks past our second vaccine, we began using our local eateries gift certs. We were certainly looking forward to doing so. Sadly, the food sucked. Probably related to turnovers in cooking staff. I guess. In any case, won’t set foot in a restaurant now.

—“shutting schools down”. Well, our town does have a school mask mandate for the kids. But, I’m not the school department super, the mayor, or the governor. I have no role at all in mask mandates in schools. Not part of my personal arsenal. I have a niece who is home schooling her two children, because she will not let them wear a mask all day.

—“massive deficit spending”. Don’t think I have a role here. Not directly.

—“destroying the fertility rate with a baby bust to a degree we don’t yet grasp”. Well, I’m not young anymore, and, in addition, I have no seed to give. I guess if every man on Earth were in my position, maybe extinction of the human race would loom. Don’t know. But, as of now, and forever more, I have no seed to give. So, “sorry America!”, or maybe I should say “lucky you, America!”, I’m plumb outta seed.

 

[JazzyFresh]

That twitter thread is presenting evidence that weighs against the lab leak theory (while trying to claim Fauci lied). I know this may surprise you, but mice engineered to display human receptors are still mice, not humans.


You are bleating.

You're just dumb. I'm sorry I'm done with such simple stupidity. I've given you respect but you're not worth it. You fail to understand basic **** and you lie when called out

Internal Documents Further Contradict Fauci’s ‘Gain-of-Function’ Research Denials​

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[JazzyFresh]

I said there were no trials on mice? This would be a lie.


You want me to apologize for you lying about what I said?

Flat out lying

Your best source is an article that refers to a scientist as "Batwoman" and is getting most of it's information from an anonymous twitter user with an axe to grind? Even then, it does not make a claim that the mice were given SARS-COV2 before 2020, nor that any scientists were hospitalized. Were you making that up out of thin air?

So, to be clear, you failed to provide a source that the mice were given SARS-COV2 before 2020, nor that any scientists were hospitalized.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Well, maybe you missed the part where I talked about applying elements within my PERSONAL arsenal:

—vaccine. Check. 2nd shot in late March.

—masks. Check. Should be using my N95, and I do in doctor’s office and the hospital. Tend to grab the blue surgical otherwise. In any case, I always wear a mask indoors in public venues.

—social distancing. Check, but a lot more lax. If a friend spots me in passing, I’m not running away or telling him to keep his distance. All my friends are vaccinated. Will not attend crowded events, indoors or out.

Now, I will look at the other things you mentioned:

“Cratering the economy”. Well, ya got me here, we are doing our small part to tank the local economy, I guess. Two weeks past our second vaccine, we began using our local eateries gift certs. We were certainly looking forward to doing so. Sadly, the food sucked. Probably related to turnovers in cooking staff. I guess. In any case, won’t set foot in a restaurant now.

—“shutting schools down”. Well, our town does have a school mask mandate for the kids. But, I’m not the school department super, the mayor, or the governor. I have no role at all in mask mandates in schools. Not part of my personal arsenal. I have a niece who is home schooling her two children, because she will not let them wear a mask all day.

—“massive deficit spending”. Don’t think I have a role here. Not directly.

—“destroying the fertility rate with a baby bust to a degree we don’t yet grasp”. Well, I’m not young anymore, and, in addition, I have no seed to give. I guess if every man on Earth were in my position, maybe extinction of the human race would loom. Don’t know. But, as of now, and forever more, I have no seed to give. So, “sorry America!”, or maybe I should say “lucky you, America!”, I’m plum outta seed.

I am not saying you personally are doing all of the things, and I am not crediting you personally with making the flu season mild. I feel we are missing each other because the scope keeps switching. If we are talking about what you do yourself to lower your own risk of COVID exposure, then okay. If we are talking about aggregate societal observations or actions, then that is okay too. It is the mixing of the two that I am having trouble keeping straight.

 

[TheGoldStandard]

Every weapon in the arsenal includes all the things I mentioned. The mild flu season was a product of everything taken together. My point of mentioning the economy, learning loss, etc., was not only to point that it is more than just masking and social distancing creating that mild flu season but also to drive home that there is a cost. We paid a big price for that mild flu season

I have nothing against anyone who wants to wear a mask. As for how effective the mask is, it depends on your age and how good the mask is. The older you are, the more effective the mask is. Neck gators are worse than nothing. Cloth masks are little better than useless. Surgical masks seem to be ~10% effective for most 20-50 year olds against Delta. N95 masks are better than that. Mask mandates in schools that put young kids in cloth masks is done to make adults feel better but it doesn’t really do anything preventative.

Yeah, hindsight gives us the knowledge that the shutdown was too much, but the lack of direct information from China, and what was official was completely downplaying it when there were video leaks showing bodies everywhere.

Not a fan of Trump, but one thing he did right (although too late) was try to limit our borders to try to stop the spread, which his political opponents slammed as racist. Frankly it was a good idea, that should have been implemented even further while we managed the situation.

Unfortunately, with not nearly enough vaccinated (to help avoid hospitalizations, not Covid), hospitals have more Covid patients than ever (90% unvaccinated generally) leading to triaging care in Idaho, and other states not far behind.

I'm hopeful that the Delta trends from India and UK follow suit where we'll soon see a big drop in cases, otherwise more restrictions, and partial shutdowns may be imminent.