Mike Elliott (Head of Medical) Leaves Utah Over Mitchell Dispute

[KqWIN]

Its also a scenario where Donovan may know its never going to be perfect so its time to go even if it is not going to be great.

Even if its just Donovan's team that clears him Mike can still put him on the report... can still tell management that he won't clear him if he doesn't feel great about it... the players can plan appropriately. If he's in the dark and has the final call he can always say "not so fast guys". The messaging after was that everyone was blindsided.

Yeah, there's zero excuses for having the team blindsided. If Mitchell had his sister hack into the Jazz twitter account and tweet out the injury report without him on it, the team still should have known.

It's not just Mitchell who is pissed about that, it's the whole team.

 

[MTS]

Elliott was proven right almost immediately and it probably led to Mitchell having a diminished off-season in terms of ability to train at 100%.

I mean, what was the alternative? Sitting Mitchell the whole playoffs so that it wouldn't diminish his off-season?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Right its all speculation and that's why I'm handing out blame pie to both sides... the issue is if there is blame to be handed out you don't want to be the head trainer... you want to be the star player. Star players are much harder to find even though it seems Mike was very good at his job. It sucks it had to come down to this but after the blow up I saw no other way around it.

Yeah like I said, I get it's part of the price to have a guy like Donovan. Wish it wasnt. I think it's a big reason why the Spurs were so good because they never had a guy who forced those compromises. I accept it though.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I mean, what was the alternative? Sitting Mitchell the whole playoffs so that it wouldn't diminish his off-season?

Sit Mitchell for the Grizzlies series until they went down 2 games. I think the game 1 loss was pretty flukey. I think the Jazz could have won the series without Mitchell personally.

 

[LogGrad98]

Who can Ryan get from BYU to fill this spot?


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I have a friend who went to BYU who is a chiropractor and a jazz fan. I bet he'd do it

 

[MTS]

Sit Mitchell for the Grizzlies series until they went down 2 games. I think the game 1 loss was pretty flukey. I think the Jazz could have won the series without Mitchell personally.

I'm not sure honestly. I imagine Conley's hamstring would've still gone out, especially with the heavier load. I also don't think we would've won both games in Memphis.

 

[NAOS]

Its also a scenario where Donovan may know its never going to be perfect so its time to go even if it is not going to be great.

Even if its just Donovan's team that clears him Mike can still put him on the report... can still tell management that he won't clear him if he doesn't feel great about it... the players can plan appropriately. If he's in the dark and has the final call he can always say "not so fast guys". The messaging after was that everyone was blindsided.

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[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah like I said, I get it's part of the price to have a guy like Donovan. Wish it wasnt. I think it's a big reason why the Spurs were so good because they never had a guy who forced those compromises. I accept it though.

Tim was a once in a generation guy. Manu and Tony fell in line perfectly too. Can you imagine how much social media stink would happen if a guy like Manu wasn't starting... even though its the smart move. I just don't see getting two of those types of egoless star talents on the same team again.

Rudy has some of those qualities but I think he can struggle too when not getting touches. He might be as close as we get.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm not sure honestly. I imagine Conley's hamstring would've still gone out, especially with the heavier load. I also don't think we would've won both games in Memphis.

Yeah, I think Conley's hamstring was probably ****ed either way. I think it was a ticking time bomb that was going out. Best case would have been to win the series without Mitchell, Conley gets hurt at some point in the series, but the Jazz still close it out. Mitchell goes into the Clippers series healthy and is able to carry Utah.

I get that is probably unrealistic. Mitchell's ankle probably still would have been compromised regardless. *Also I think it's more of a foot injury than ankle but Utah is covering it up*

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

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Also medical professionals don't have much motivation to be aggressive on this stuff. I remember my neck was giving me problems and the doc asked how I got hurt. I said playing basketball. They weren't willing to do an MRI but they said I could go to PT and that I should stop playing basketball for 6-9 months and then come back and check in. I did PT for a few weeks but there was no way I was just going to sit out for 6-9 months without any kind of diagnosis.

The best doc I had was one that treated by broken/dislocated finger. He said he wouldn't do surgery unless the had too... said there was some ligament damage. Asked if I could still play... he said "if I tell you no are you going to listen?" we both laughed. He gave me tips on immobilizing it and said I was more likely to re-injure playing with the kids with it not wrapped then wrapping it up and playing. He got it.

 

[homeytennis]

What are Elliot's credentials? MD, physical therapist, athletic trainer, chiro or barista from Starbucks?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, I think Conley's hamstring was probably ****ed either way. I think it was a ticking time bomb that was going out. Best case would have been to win the series without Mitchell, Conley gets hurt at some point in the series, but the Jazz still close it out. Mitchell goes into the Clippers series healthy and is able to carry Utah.

I get that is probably unrealistic. Mitchell's ankle probably still would have been compromised regardless. *Also I think it's more of a foot injury than ankle but Utah is covering it up*

I actually think the second part might have been why Donovan was originally unhappy. I think they may have misdiagnosed it originally. Again... as you know... total guess. It also may have been jammed/dislocated and not just a sprain.

It all sucks... the hamstring... the ankle... it sucks. Pray we can manage this and be healthy this year.