Okay, ******, I've asked this before, but

[Dr. Jones]

I'm still not sure that Barnes would push ahead of Hayward in the rotation at SF. I think if we can get Quincy Miller, it makes sense to put him at SF and bring either Burks or Hayward off the bench. If Burks could play PG, like really play PG, that would be a coup. Meanwhile, Hayward can probably play either wing position, depending on match-ups.

/removingNOTEgoggles

I really like GH. I think either Barnes or QMiller are better SF's, easily (blast, don't care). I also think Burks is a 2, period. Spot minutes at PG, maybe, but a 2.

Bottom line. I think it's great to have players that can cover multiple positions on the floor (I really do), but it RARELY works to, in reality, play them outside of their obvious natural position. I think Burks is a SG, GH is a SF, and Sap is a PF. None of them may be a perfect fit at those positions, none of them may be all-stars, but it's what they are .. and they're good. Let it be and continue to build.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Well...it might, that just may not be a good thing

touche .. (pronounced: tooshay)

 

[Dr. Jones]

I believe that Millsap is already the best PF coming off the bench on the league. The only two people that I can think of that could possibly rival them are Lamar Odom and Taj Gibson. Personally I would take Millsap over both of them. They are both too inconstant for me.

The sooner Millsap realizes that he will help the team more (and put up better numbers) coming off the bench the better the Jazz are as an organization.

Another good post. What I like about Sap over those other guys (among other things) is his blue collar work ethic .. his "do-it-or-die-in-the-attempt" mentality. A skilled 6th man with that attitude is nearly priceless.

 

[vslice02]

I think Hayward can have success at either the 2 or the 3, although due to his size and wingspan he may have some issues guarding some of the bigger, more physical SF's in the league. With his handle and ability to pass directly off the bounce - if he shows the improved shooting stroke he did at the end of last season Hayward could easily be a natural fit at SG. I think Sap will ultimately be a PF - hopefully in a 6th-man role that made him one of the most effective and efficient PF's in that role for the Jazz from 2008-10.

I think people see how Sap's size as a starting PF hurt us on the glass last year, they see his improved shooting range and like the idea of getting him on the floor along with Favors and Jefferson/Kanter. As mentioned - in select matchups I think it could work but IMO he will still be a highly effective player for us at PF.

(sidenote: I'm not of the opinion we need to draft our "PG of the future." I think we have enough young players w/potential at other positions that what we may need most next year is a veteran PG to run the show and bring leadership to all the young talent we have. I think it's important to have balance and I don't like the idea of building around an unsustainable 5-man lineup of 20-yr old lottery picks - but that's something that can be debated in the future.)

 

[Xsy]

I agree with the original post. Millsap is not a SF, and Hayward is hardly a SG.

I also agree that Millsap needs to be coming off the bench. He's absolutely 6MOTY material, and Favors really needs starting minutes for the future of this franchise.

 

[freakazoid]

No one will be able to offer him more than the mid-level and his value will always be highest to the Jazz.

What?

 

[orangello]

Another good post. What I like about Sap over those other guys (among other things) is his blue collar work ethic .. his "do-it-or-die-in-the-attempt" mentality. A skilled 6th man with that attitude is nearly priceless.

That is my biggest concern for the new season, Millsap's attitude. I hope that he will take a 6th man role but I fear it will lead to the end of the Millsap and Jazz relationship. He is a good player. Unfortunately, the only thing that he doesn't have is height and that is a big deal when you have to play the Lakers, Dallas or OKC and the road to a championship will go through one of those places.

 

[spycam1]

I think Hayward can have success at either the 2 or the 3, although due to his size and wingspan he may have some issues guarding some of the bigger, more physical SF's in the league. With his handle and ability to pass directly off the bounce - if he shows the improved shooting stroke he did at the end of last season Hayward could easily be a natural fit at SG. I think Sap will ultimately be a PF - hopefully in a 6th-man role that made him one of the most effective and efficient PF's in that role for the Jazz from 2008-10.

I think people see how Sap's size as a starting PF hurt us on the glass last year, they see his improved shooting range and like the idea of getting him on the floor along with Favors and Jefferson/Kanter. As mentioned - in select matchups I think it could work but IMO he will still be a highly effective player for us at PF.

(sidenote: I'm not of the opinion we need to draft our "PG of the future." I think we have enough young players w/potential at other positions that what we may need most next year is a veteran PG to run the show and bring leadership to all the young talent we have. I think it's important to have balance and I don't like the idea of building around an unsustainable 5-man lineup of 20-yr old lottery picks - but that's something that can be debated in the future.)

At this point, I'd say our best option is to go after a guy like Holiday or Knight with our trade assets, cause the PG's of this draft seem very iffy so far. Although, I do agree we'll need a balance of vets and younger players, I just don't think NOW is the time to go after those veteran players; wait till our young guys develop a few years, THEN figure out exactly what we need to finish the equation.

 

[Dr. Jones]

How do you guys feel about Harris as a veteran leader for these young guys? I don't have much of an opinion, in that regard, but I like him, as a player, more than most around here, I believe.

 

[orangello]

At this point, I'd say our best option is to go after a guy like Holiday or Knight with our trade assets, cause the PG's of this draft seem very iffy so far. Although, I do agree we'll need a balance of vets and younger players, I just don't think NOW is the time to go after those veteran players; wait till our young guys develop a few years, THEN figure out exactly what we need to finish the equation.

Great point. We all need to be patient with the expectations of the current roster. If things pan out the right way then I agree, going after a PG with a few years under his belt might just be the answer to the PG problem.

I would also throw out George Hill's name as well. I like his game and the tenacity he brings to the court.

 

[vslice02]

At this point, I'd say our best option is to go after a guy like Holiday or Knight with our trade assets, cause the PG's of this draft seem very iffy so far. Although, I do agree we'll need a balance of vets and younger players, I just don't think NOW is the time to go after those veteran players; wait till our young guys develop a few years, THEN figure out exactly what we need to finish the equation.

Completely agree - I would wait until next offseason to make any substantial moves and use this season to figure out what we have and how a guys like Al Jefferson and Devin Harris fit into what we're trying to do. (I expect some tweaks although I would assume Corbin will keep alot of our same sets so someone w/atleast a half-season's worth of experience like Harris will have an advantage w/limited training camp&practice.

 

[vslice02]

How do you guys feel about Harris as a veteran leader for these young guys? I don't have much of an opinion, in that regard, but I like him, as a player, more than most around here, I believe.

Personally, I was never a fan of his game in NJ and Dallas (thought he was a scoring PG who made put up numbers but didn't help his team win). That said - he could be a good fit w/this Jazz team that has alot of athleticism and ability to get up-and-down the floor. This team will need leadership and Harris will likely be one of the more experienced players on it. Not sold on him but I think it's too early to write him off in Utah. Worst-case he'll be an effective stop-gap at PG until we decide what pieces we want to keep and move.