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Game Thread Dec 17, 2021 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Spurs

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fishonjazz said:
I dont know how the hell to feel about Quin anymore. Is he a good coach or bad coach? average coach? Great coach in practices and in overall game plans who just cant call the right play in real time in close games and makes poor substitutions in close game and has no idea how or when to use challenges or how to make in game effective adjustment.
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You hit the nail on the head as far as I'm concerned with all of this.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Fair but I think they can also adjust in the last couple minutes when getting torched… Spurs we’re 24/30 from 2 in second half. That is ridiculous shot making but also we need to be able to disrupt. Even if we had a Dunn to substitute in for defense in the last 30 seconds it could help a lot. Take Conley or bogey off the court depending on who is getting hunted. Still had timeouts so you can go offense/defense subs as needed.

Oh well maybe this will dissuade them from going balls to wall for the 1 seed since it’s starting to get too far away.
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We don't make adjustments, where have you been the last 5 years?

We could have played better and made adjustments for sure, but I think you have to give some credit to the Spurs for playing extremely well in the last two minutes. To me there's not shame in losing to a team in a two minute stretch where the other team simply plays great. There is a lot of shame in letting a far inferior team stick around the whole game because you don't put in the effort. I think the Jazz played some of their best basketball tonight later in the game, but the Spurs met that level and were hitting wayyyy more difficult shots than us. So if we're looking at how we lost this game we should look at the first 45.

This game was potentially a good preview of a Suns series, however. The Sun's bread in butter is exactly what happened, and they are so good at it you can't tip your cap and say GG after the game. They beat everyone this way and if you don't know that you haven't watched Sun's basketball. If they beat you that way, you have to look at your coach like he's an idiot who won't adjust for anything. Unfortunately, that has been the coach Quin has been throughout his entire career. He is a no adjustment coach. It's understandably frustrating, but it should be surprising to no one.
 
KqWIN said:
We don't make adjustments, where have you been the last 5 years?

We could have played better and made adjustments for sure, but I think you have to give some credit to the Spurs for playing extremely well in the last two minutes. To me there's not shame in losing to a team in a two minute stretch where the other team simply plays great. There is a lot of shame in letting a far inferior team stick around the whole game because you don't put in the effort. I think the Jazz played some of their best basketball tonight later in the game, but the Spurs met that level and were hitting wayyyy more difficult shots than us. So if we're looking at how we lost this game we should look at the first 45.

This game was potentially a good preview of a Suns series, however. The Sun's bread in butter is exactly what happened, and they are so good at it you can't tip your cap and say GG after the game. They beat everyone this way and if you don't know that you haven't watched Sun's basketball. If they beat you that way, you have to look at your coach like he's an idiot who won't adjust for anything. Unfortunately, that has been the coach Quin has been throughout his entire career. He is a no adjustment coach. It's understandably frustrating, but it should be surprising to no one.
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Ummmm. Well, I think we were watching when the jazz couldn't make adjustments in three historic playoff flops.

This game was a coaching loss. It was about adjustments. The spurs pushed buttons and we insisted on pushing the same buttons as if it would eventually change.

This is also fodder for Danny Ainge who surely is looking to swap a bit of offense for improved defense.
 
As someone else said, the hardest part of watching this game was how similar it felt to the Clippers series last year. We are absolutely unequipped to stop guards in the midrange.
 
For me, tonight felt like a microcosm of the playoff flops wrapped up in one game.
The first 2 quarters, we came in with a better game plan. In the third quarter Pop made adjustments. I mean, Landale as the super sub? He didn't even play in the first half.

By the fourth we looked like we played with high desperation but we only really started to adjust in the last 5 minutes of the game.

In short, Pop just out coached our coaches.

Quin does some amazing things but adjust quickly is not one of them. I think it is a limiting factor in our teams success unfortunately.

if we are to win with Quin then Quin needs to be surrounded by some different voices that can help him recognize and adjust on the fly.
 
Thankfully there's another game tomorrow, because that game sucked. Especially that 3rd quarter. It was brutal.
 
I think my biggest concern right now is Ingles. Most of the time, he doesn't seem to be engaged in the general flow of the game anymore. Even his legendary basketball IQ seems diminished - he made a ton of mental mistakes against the Spurs.
 
Moonlight Graham said:
I think my biggest concern right now is Ingles. Most of the time, he doesn't seem to be engaged in the general flow of the game anymore. Even his legendary basketball IQ seems diminished - he made a ton of mental mistakes against the Spurs.
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I dont even notice him out there anymore. He is invisible


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prodigy said:
Spurs and the 29th draft pick - Derrick White, Keldon Johnson, Dejounte Murray all drafted there...

Trade Clarkson for Marcus Smart.
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That’s okay, Udoka is giving us quality mins….
 
No Forrest in this game? Probably should’ve tried him out.
 
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