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Is It Ironic?

Ron Mexico said:
I don't think any fan sees the issues clearly. It's part of being a fan. I think it's okay and I think most people are fine. But, yes there are freakouts happening here, there always have been and always will be. They are happening more frequent lately.
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Well it's pretty clear our effort has been lacking. It's pretty clear that JC has been hurting us. It's pretty clear that Jingles has lost something. Clear that Butler/Paschall/Hughes have not been given much of a chance by Quin. I could go on but you get my drift. I think for the most part people have been solutions oriented but there's nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I think we're all frustrated that this team appears to be sleepwalking through the regular season rather than realizing they could be using the regular season to improve for the playoffs. I think we're all bracing for a similar outcome as the last two years, and by being pessimistic now, maybe we inoculate ourselves somewhat against disappointment later.
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I agree with this. I think there is an argument that coasting through the regular season is better since our main issue has been health in the playoffs. But I get also feel like were swinging too far the other way.
str8line said:
Well it's pretty clear our effort has been lacking. It's pretty clear that JC has been hurting us. It's pretty clear that Jingles has lost something. Clear that Butler/Paschall/Hughes have not been given much of a chance by Quin. I could go on but you get my drift. I think for the most part people have been solutions oriented but there's nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade.
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That is not what I am talking about. There are plenty of things wrong with our team. Every team has issues and plenty of them. There is nothing wrong with criticizing the team or suggesting different things, but that is different from the freakouts I am talking about. But I also think there is nothing wrong with those, just silly.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Utah sports fans are always negative and woe is me, everyone is against us!
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Everyone is against us!! My name used to be Thee jazz fan because I was the only member of my family that was a jazz fan. Look at last years Allstar game draft. Who were the last two guys to be picked? Gobert and Mitchell and when asked LBJ and KD basically said no one cares about the jazz, then went on to slander John and Karl. It was complete and utter disrespect for OUR team. It’s always been us vs everyone else. I wear my fandom as a badge of honor as all of us should, and if @Gameface cant handle the heat, he should do himself a favor and find an easier team to root for.

And the day we finally break through, if it be this year or thirty years from now, it will be the greatest high any sports fan of any team has ever felt, and we will have had our sweet revenge!!!
 
Gameface said:
That www.jazzfanz.com is the strongest force in making me not be a Jazz fan?

You know when we get the @JazzAvenues quotes and it's obvious that a fanbase is toxic?

Imagine how all of you play in those threads on other fan sites. Where do you think you rank on that scale?

This site is broken. So many of you are toxic. You hate this team more than any rando NBA fan. Why are you even here?

I'm ready for a break. I'm putting myself on another self-imposed ban until the playoffs start... If there's any reason to come back at that point.

This is the worst this site has ever been. Corbin years were more positive. This is a ****ing cesspool of negativity and hate.
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I’m with you. Too toxic on here now days. I too will be putting myself on a self-imposed ban. Might be back for the playoffs and might not.

I tried to be a more positive voice on here and defended our players when negative things are said about them. But that didn’t help anything. I hope everyone here remembers that it’s a game. And we are lucky we have a professional team in this small state of Utah. And those players out there are playing for us. IMO they should be cherished. Not put down and dragged through mud when they don’t play to our expectations. Otherwise move the team to a city who will be proud of the team, win or lose. Cause in the end, it’s just a game.
 
it's a good thing I'm also a football fan so I don't get carried away with threads. every time somebody post a super long one I just ignore it.

FYI I'm a huge fan of joe and Clarkson and it sucks reading all the comments but at the end of the day, it's better than nothing. jazzfanz deserve a trophy
 
@Gameface

I respect you taking a stance here. A good perspective post to be more positive.

These last two postseasons have been so disappointing because we seem so promising. Our fanbase is feeling the strain. Some still have hope in this roster. Some have lost it. And some have a paper thin layer of hope with frustration breaking through.

I love to sit back and watch the successes, but I like to chime in to help get us over a hump and through tough times. Some people on this forum are fans, but most of the active posters are wannabe GM's. I approach this forum as a wannabe GM, but I realize that I should put on the fan hat more often.

I think we all want what is best for this franchise. For the most part, I think we care about these players as people and as athletes. We wish this exact roster reaches that ultimate goal, but can it? That's what we all are debating as we approach this important deadline.
 
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In sports, the reality is that if you’re not winning, you’re losing.

Part of this reality is that last year, the stars aligned for us as we had injured superstars around the league, the best record, both front runners for the sixth man of the year and a Clippers team that was hobbled. But the injury bug bit us and we bowed out due to small ball wrecking us as in years past.

This year, we don’t have any of these pleasures sans injuries for us and it’s hard watching our best chance since the statues evaporate knowing that we only have another couple years before this team is significantly different.

The root negativity is not because of any one player or coach, but in that we are fumbling our future and that we may never see a team this competitive again for many years.
 
You should see the complete meltdown happening in Laker country. We are a bunch of middle aged women at a tennis club complaining that the new ball boys aren't cute enough, or doctors on their private golf course complaining they don't have enough young female caddies to go around compared to them. They have made denial into an olympic sport. Now 2 of the guys here that had Lakers crap all over their offices have taken most of their stuff down, trying to minimize the torture of unfulfilled entitlement. The ultimate blue balls.

I am disappointed and being more negative than usual largely because of our own unfulfilled expectations. We thought we would be better this year, but we also all saw the weaknesses and that these weaknesses were not addressed. We still started out optimistic, as we added some veteran presence and hoped another year together would mean everyone got a little better. We did not expect the drop off in efficiency across the board, nor how long it would take for some of our guys to get out of their slump. Combine that with unprecedented losing recently and we feel our spirits being crushed as we see teams like the Suns just rolling through the season as expected, with improvement in every area they were lacking. So we come here to vent as this is our safe space, since most of our loved ones are probably like my wife and sick of hearing me yelling at the TV during the games and such. Fans are emotional and they need a release, whether good or bad.

There are still reasons to be optimistic. Maybe the team will learn something watching the young guys just killing it. The last game was fun to watch and showed what our young guys are capable of. It is normal to try to temper our expectations, sour grapes and all that, and when the full team comes back and starts to win again a lot of this will become fodder for the few I-told-you-so's on the board later in the season, even while a good chunk of them were complaining with the rest of us. It is the Jazzfanz circle of life.

Have a good break @Gameface you will be missed but I hope you are better for not being on the board. We all get it. This is a unique place on the interwebs and runs different than any other forum I frequent. We all need breaks from it now and then.

Take care and come back soon. You have a voice that is missed and needed.
 
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