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Trade deadline discussion

Keefe said:
Julius Randle obviously wants to be traded.

Julius for Bogey? He gives us the stretch 4, rebounding and toughness we need, and is probably a better defender than Bogey. He was good last year. He’s also five and a half years younger than Bogey.

Now, he does have four more years left after this year, the last being at 29 million. But I feel like he brings a lot of what we need. Idk. I don’t know what options are really out there for the mediocrity we have.
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Right the Knicks are just going to hand us Randle for Bogey. This is a huge giant turd of a dream.
Keefe said:
Btw this is why brought up Draymond this off-season. And virtually everyone here balked at it. Hilarious how much some of you clowns overvalue our players and don’t recognize how vital dude is to the Dubs. Whatever it’s moot. They weren’t going to trade him for our garbage.
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Everyone balked because it was never going to happen, idiot!!
 
Hearsky said:
So, your master plan to take us to the next level is to replace RAPTOR ranked players #11 (Conley), #47 (O'Neal) and #219 (Bogey) with #33 (Smart), #163 (Fournier) and #249 (Randle)? Is your plan to just hope they improve because you want them to? Great coach? What's your thesis for this "nasty" lineup?
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Not my plan. I was piggy backing off of Keefe's train of thought.

I like some of the pieces, but my goal would be simple -

Collins #1 priority

Grant #2

Smart #3

I think all of those guys help us immensely. Mainly, one of those guys with Rudy and Don provide a brighter future than our aging unit now.



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LoPo said:
Not my plan. I was piggy backing off of Keefe's train of thought.

I like some of the pieces, but my goal would be simple -

Collins #1 priority

Grant #2

Smart #3

I think all of those guys help us immensely. Mainly, one of those guys with Rudy and Don provide a brighter future than our aging unit now.



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Do you think DM can be a full time point guard?
 
Hearsky said:
Do you think DM can be a full time point guard?
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If we want a title, I think Don is our primary ball handler. That has been my argument against adding Conley the whole time.

Just go look at the development of Ja Morant as he has been given full authority as the Memphis leader. Compare his numbers with Don's and they are close to identical even though Don shares so much of the ball handling duties.

Conley is a good player, but Don has to be the guy which he is not right now.

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LoPo said:
even though Don shares so much of the ball with Don.
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This part made me laugh because there are some that likely think Don only shares with himself.

The ideal path for Donovan was always to be a full time point or creator with a good secondary option that was past first. I think Mike is honestly ideal for that on offense. Size is a challenge on defense between the two of them… and I do think Mike is a good defender. I don’t see Dons offensive role as a problem at all. The offense works… the defense struggles in some matchups.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
This part made me laugh because there are some that likely think Don only shares with himself.

The ideal path for Donovan was always to be a full time point or creator with a good secondary option that was past first. I think Mike is honestly ideal for that on offense. Size is a challenge on defense between the two of them… and I do think Mike is a good defender. I don’t see Dons offensive role as a problem at all. The offense works… the defense struggles in some matchups.
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We have had two postseasons with Conley. When Conley doesn't play, our offense is perfectly fine, but we really lack help defending the perimeter. When Conley does play, our offense isn't that much different, but we really lack help defending the perimeter.

Conley is a solid defender and better than Don, but he's still not going to shut down another team's primary or even secondary scorer.

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Butler and Ingles for Roco who is expiring. Butler as Lillard insurance of sorts. And Roco is expiring so I’m not sure what they could get for him.

Bogey for Barnes. Is that a pipe dream?

Conley-Forrest
Mitchell-Clarkson
Barnes-O’Neale
Roco-Gay
Gobert-Whiteside
 
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I know fan talk doesn't really mean anything, but talking to a hardcore Boston fan yesterday and they said they would love to trade Smart. Basically said he often ruins the offense and won't accept a smaller offensive role, and that his defense has regressed.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I know fan talk doesn't really mean anything, but talking to a hardcore Boston fan yesterday and they said they would love to trade Smart. Basically said he often ruins the offense and won't accept a smaller offensive role, and that his defense has regressed.
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I think it does mean something… sometimes. If there are constant themes I wouldn’t ignore them. I pay more attention when the fanbase is overwhelmingly in love with the player that if a few folks think they suck. Kenrich Williams is a guy I think this rule applies to... OKC fans love that dude.

The narratives on Smart that he has regressed have been around for a little while now. He kinda reminds me on an extreme version of Jae Crowder. There are nights where he gets hot and is the emotional leader than rallies the troops. There will be times he shoots you out of games. I feel like swapping JC for him brings some upside but the deal is not without its potential drawbacks. The longer the season goes on the less I want them to make a major move that hamstrings the future because i don't think there is any saving this year's team. I think they were a fringe contender but have shown they should likely be considered more in the tier below Suns, Warriors, healthy Nuggets.
 
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