Trade deadline discussion

[LoPo]

My last pitch is that from the Cleveland side, they need some guard depth now and I think they are desperate to put a winner on the floor and into the playoffs. When was the last time they were even half-decent without Lebron?

And if the decision is to get on with the re-tool, this would be a strong move in that direction. I see this as a hedge because we’re getting an all-time buddy back in the locker room. I’m really hoping Joe sticks around for the rest of the season.

If we could definitely get a 1st rounder in the deal, I would do it. Rubio and a 1st for Clarkson and either Whiteside or Dok.

I don't think Cleveland would give us a 1st, but maybe they do. I would find it hard to believe that our FO would eat that money difference either. But maybe the savings next year persuades the FO to get off Clarkson's deal now.

 

[infection]

I don’t follow this guy but he knows what’s up here.

 

[NUMBERICA]

If we could definitely get a 1st rounder in the deal, I would do it. Rubio and a 1st for Clarkson and either Whiteside or Dok.

I don't think Cleveland would give us a 1st, but maybe they do. I would find it hard to believe that our FO would eat that money difference either. But maybe the savings next year persuades the FO to get off Clarkson's deal now.

That’s exactly my thinking, and given the financial losses (this year), there’s no way I do it without a 1st.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Cleveland likely gets Eric Gordon if they throw in their first. We should be happy getting a good second (they have two good ones) and expiring salary for JC.

It all depends on the mentality of the front office right now. Which way do they go... there is a small fork in the road now and a huge one this offseason.

My predictions:

-5% chance something WILD happens. They trade one of Mike, Rudy, or Donovan. Some desperate team throws a YOLO offer out and we take it.
-15% chance we do something of medium significance... trading JC and stuff for Smart or Joe and stuff for something that nets starter level person.
-20% chance we do something out of left field... Like Royce for expirings and a first or Rudy Gay for something.
-40% chance we do almost nothing. Like the deal last year for Cold Matthew.
-20% chance we do a panic overpay trade where we give too much for a lateral move and make our situation worse. I think Danny walks away from the table pretty regularly if he isn't getting something of value... but Ryan may be freaking out.

 

[homeytennis]

Jabari Parker, Kris Dunn, Greg Monroe and Jordan Crawford are free agents. We wouldn't have to sweeten the deal with stinking draft picks.

 

[LoPo]

Cleveland likely gets Eric Gordon if they throw in their first. We should be happy getting a good second (they have two good ones) and expiring salary for JC.

It all depends on the mentality of the front office right now. Which way do they go... there is a small fork in the road now and a huge one this offseason.

My predictions:

-5% chance something WILD happens. They trade one of Mike, Rudy, or Donovan. Some desperate team throws a YOLO offer out and we take it.
-15% chance we do something of medium significance... trading JC and stuff for Smart or Joe and stuff for something that nets starter level person.
-20% chance we do something out of left field... Like Royce for expirings and a first or Rudy Gay for something.
-40% chance we do almost nothing. Like the deal last year for Cold Matthew.
-20% chance we do a panic overpay trade where we give too much for a lateral move and make our situation worse. I think Danny walks away from the table pretty regularly if he isn't getting something of value... but Ryan may be freaking out.

If you were the GM right now, what would you do?

 

[Ineptimusprime]

Tony says no Bogey trade likely. With that being the case, I’m not sure that there’s anyone we could trade that would move the needle at all.

Just depressing all around. Totally ****ed right now and not a real path to improve this season.

Honestly, it’s just time to cash in what we can on this core. It’s time to deal the older guys for younger players or assets we can use to acquire younger players for the next core that’s more on Don’s timeline. I’d deal Clarkson and one of Bogey or Conley now at the deadline. Then move the other in the offseason.

 

[campaignist]

The sad truth is this - if we can make this team better using Ingles' expiring even though he's hurt, you almost have to do it.

As bad as everything is right now, the dream would be for us to trade Joe for something that helps us then we bring Joe back as a coach for the rest of the year after he retires. We win the title and he's standing right there.

Yeah. I honestly doubt Joe would mind, since he was likely done anyway. After a year he could sign a 10 day and retire or something. I am a strong proponent of a Udonis Haslem situation.

 

[LogGrad98]

Jabari Parker, Kris Dunn, Greg Monroe and Jordan Crawford are free agents. We wouldn't have to sweeten the deal with stinking draft picks.

Just sign all of them, and Gasol. **** it.

 

[LogGrad98]

Tony says no Bogey trade likely. With that being the case, I’m not sure that there’s anyone we could trade that would move the needle at all.

Just depressing all around. Totally ****ed right now and not a real path to improve this season.

Honestly, it’s just time to cash in what we can on this core. It’s time to deal the older guys for younger players or assets we can use to acquire younger players for the next core that’s more on Don’s timeline. I’d deal Clarkson and one of Bogey or Conley now at the deadline. Then move the other in the offseason.

Who the **** is Boggy?

 

[infection]

Who the **** is Boggy?

I usually hear the term boggy as a descriptor for a prostate.

 

[LogGrad98]

Tony says no Bogey trade likely. With that being the case, I’m not sure that there’s anyone we could trade that would move the needle at all.

Just depressing all around. Totally ****ed right now and not a real path to improve this season.

Honestly, it’s just time to cash in what we can on this core. It’s time to deal the older guys for younger players or assets we can use to acquire younger players for the next core that’s more on Don’s timeline. I’d deal Clarkson and one of Bogey or Conley now at the deadline. Then move the other in the offseason.

Really we need the team as is to come together and get their ****ing **** together and start playing ball the way they and we know they can. Enough of the hero ball ********. Enough slacking off your ****ing defensive assignment. Enough over-dribbling and ****** contested shots early in the shot-clock. Enough ignoring the big guy under the basket. And enough throwing the ball to the other team because we are counting on the guy being where we think he should be instead of reading the defense and making the smart play. And enough letting promising young talent rot on the bench because we are masturbationally connected to the ****ing system. They need to pull their heads out and do the right thing to get this ************ back on track. Enough ****ing jackpotting around. From the head coach on down to the end of the bench. Stop playing in tuxedos and go get after it and win some ****ing games.

If they can't use something like this as motivation and inspiration and make a change for the better then ****'em all and gut the team and start over. They don't deserve to sniff Joe's jock if that is the case.