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Jazz shopping Al Jefferson?

Hotttnickkk;212808. said:
.Now considering who we have:

Jefferson - OK he's not the perfect C, but he's said himself that he's a C and he's "OK" playing a C.
Kanter - He's a bit short for a C and doesn't quite have the athleticism, but he has played C before and who knows how he'll develop?
Favors - He's got the defense ability and athleticism to play C - may be he's an inch too short? I see a lot of potential though.
Okur - Played C most of his time in the NBA. Has the height but not the defense or post play to play C.

I'm not happy with all the "PFs" in the team neither, but if you think some GM will happily take on Jefferson and give us a quality C I think you must be dreaming. And if you're thinking about trading Jefferson for a back up C - then which of the "PFs" would you want starting at C?

Llooking at who we've got I think Favors has the most potential going forward. He has the ability, athleticism and reach to play C. So why don't we be patient for a while this season and see how they develop?
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Good post and all true. The only problem is with the condensed schedule, between the 4 of them, realistically, I think you're looking at 25-30 missed games this season.

Jefferson played all 82 last season; but I doubt we'll be this lucky again this season. Will probably missed a half dozen games with various minor injuries
Memo is coming off almost an entire year lost and is 30+. He's bound to miss some time.
Kanter has barely played any competitive ball over the last couple of years and might be in line for some extended D-League time if he struggles early or even if he doesn't.
I think Favors will play the most games out of all of them; but not necessarily the most minutes.

I'd love for them to pick up a low cost vet like Pryzbilla or Jeff Foster as Favors and Kanter develop their game; but I wouldn't hold my breath on either one of them. The reality is they'll probably pick up another Elson-like guy off the scrap heap. Definitely need another body though.
 
I saw someone mention this on twitter, and I'd have to agree with them, that if the Jazz really are shopping Al, the trade that makes the most sense is Al for Iguodala. Jazz aren't going to trade Al for another big (it doesn't make sense), and whether you are for or against this trade, it does actually make sense on some levels. Both contracts are very similar with the only real difference being that Iggy's has 3 yrs left to Al's two. Philly needs a big and we need a SF, and by making this trade it also opens up time for young talent on both teams to get more time (Phili: Turner & T. Young, Jazz: Favors & Kanter). Not sure I want to say goodbye to Al, but if this is the trade, it would take me about 2 seconds to talk myself into the most athletic team in Jazz history.
 
No, they are not.

Then again, Utah wasn't shopping Deron either.

Translation: Rumors don't mean dog **** in Utah.
 
Brown Notes said:
No, they are not.

Then again, Utah wasn't shopping Deron either.

Translation: Rumors don't mean dog **** in Utah.
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I agree. For someone to put a lot of stock into rumors (especially when it comes to the Jazz) is moronic, but the one good purpose they serve is they help pass the time. 3 more weeks til we tip-off.
 
I think trading anyone at this point could be a mistake. This team is still very young and inexperienced so we want to trade away an experienced player. Besides the fact that what seems like a logjam at PF could easily because an issue if we trade away AJ. We still don't know how healthy Okur is and if he can play at an NBA level for more than 20 minutes. We don't know if Kanter is ready for minutes. So if we trade Al or Millsap then we could be in trouble if Kanter or Okur are not ready. With the condensed schedule, the injury bug could be an issue. I hope the Jazz sure up the backcourt and go with our bigs. This season is about determining what the team is going to look like for the next four years. Who is going to step up?

Another thing to consider is that if AJ has gotten into better shape then perhaps we don't want to trade him or perhaps he has more value?
 
...who, in there right mind, would want Jefferson on there team and at that price? He's pathetic offensively, can't figure out how to run or defend the pick and roll...his defense is turrible.....he can't remember how to run simple plays.....he's basically a school yard type board crasher and that's about it!
 
margodydek said:
I saw someone mention this on twitter, and I'd have to agree with them, that if the Jazz really are shopping Al, the trade that makes the most sense is Al for Iguodala. Jazz aren't going to trade Al for another big (it doesn't make sense), and whether you are for or against this trade, it does actually make sense on some levels. Both contracts are very similar with the only real difference being that Iggy's has 3 yrs left to Al's two. Philly needs a big and we need a SF, and by making this trade it also opens up time for young talent on both teams to get more time (Phili: Turner & T. Young, Jazz: Favors & Kanter). Not sure I want to say goodbye to Al, but if this is the trade, it would take me about 2 seconds to talk myself into the most athletic team in Jazz history.
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I agree. I think Iguodala is really a great fit here. We really don't have any threat defensively ,outside of Favors, and Iguodala is the second best perimeter defender (after Tony Allen) in the league. Also, Harris and Iguodala running the break would be automatic! Downside is it doesn't help our shooting problems at all and his contract is a beast (no worse than Al's though). He does have 3 years, but his 3rd is a player option (which will probably be crazy to not accept because he probably won't be able to make the same amount of money).
 
I think we hope Al has a monster season and then trade him to a contender at the deadline, assuming Memo is fairly healthy and Kanter is ready to contribute. Big if's though at this point. Trading Al now before we have any idea what we have in the rest of our bigs would be idiotic (as has been mentioned countless times).
 
margodydek said:
I saw someone mention this on twitter, and I'd have to agree with them, that if the Jazz really are shopping Al, the trade that makes the most sense is Al for Iguodala. Jazz aren't going to trade Al for another big (it doesn't make sense), and whether you are for or against this trade, it does actually make sense on some levels. Both contracts are very similar with the only real difference being that Iggy's has 3 yrs left to Al's two. Philly needs a big and we need a SF, and by making this trade it also opens up time for young talent on both teams to get more time (Phili: Turner & T. Young, Jazz: Favors & Kanter). Not sure I want to say goodbye to Al, but if this is the trade, it would take me about 2 seconds to talk myself into the most athletic team in Jazz history.
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A trade for Iguodala would make the Jazz's home opener on December 30 all that much more intriguing :).

I don't see the Jazz doing it, though; $13 million to $15 million is too much to pay for even a high scoring wing with Iggy--I mean iffy--defense ;).
https://hoopshype.com/salaries/philadelphia.htm

Then again, $13 million to $15 million is too much to pay for even a high-scoring big with iffy defense @AlJefferson.
 
Not sure that Milsap is starting PF material?? I think that you need an Al Jefferson or CBooze type of starter to make Milsap better. He breaks down as the season goes on, get's tired because he's too small to guard the bigger guys in the league.
 
MDAV28 said:
I agree. I think Iguodala is really a great fit here. We really don't have any threat defensively ,outside of Favors, and Iguodala is the second best perimeter defender (after Tony Allen) in the league. Also, Harris and Iguodala running the break would be automatic! Downside is it doesn't help our shooting problems at all and his contract is a beast (no worse than Al's though). He does have 3 years, but his 3rd is a player option (which will probably be crazy to not accept because he probably won't be able to make the same amount of money).
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Would rather have Granger than Iggy.
 
carolinajazz said:
...who, in there right mind, would want Jefferson on there team and at that price? He's pathetic offensively, can't figure out how to run or defend the pick and roll...his defense is turrible.....he can't remember how to run simple plays.....he's basically a school yard type board crasher and that's about it!
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Does he have.....jailhouse tats....I....can't....remember....!!!!!
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Would rather have Granger than Iggy.
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Granger is obviously a better shooter and is bigger but Iggy is better at every other part of the game. To me, our biggest need is defense so I would take Iggy over Granger all day. Plus I think Iggy would be a good player for Burks to learn from.
 
Chris Sheridan: If there was a third team on LAL-NO talks I would think maybe it's Utah sending Al Jefferson to NO, with Pau going to Jazz. Pau>AJ, younger. Twitter-

I know it's just an opinion but thoughts?
 
Despite being a little lacking in the britches, Pau Gasol - as a basketball player - is ten times what Jefferson is. I think he'd be a tremendous fit here, basketball-wise.

Contract-wise and age-wise, though? Holy **** no. Also, again, Gasol is a great complementary player, but if you're hoping for any kind of leadership, you can forget it. At his age, that is something you'd seriously hope for.
 
Unless they feel Memo is healthy to play a full season and Kanter can play some solid back-up minutes, I don't think Jefferson is dealt. He is the only one of any of them that can play both C and PF.
 
candrew said:
Good post and all true. The only problem is with the condensed schedule, between the 4 of them, realistically, I think you're looking at 25-30 missed games this season.

Jefferson played all 82 last season; but I doubt we'll be this lucky again this season. Will probably missed a half dozen games with various minor injuries
Memo is coming off almost an entire year lost and is 30+. He's bound to miss some time.
Kanter has barely played any competitive ball over the last couple of years and might be in line for some extended D-League time if he struggles early or even if he doesn't.
I think Favors will play the most games out of all of them; but not necessarily the most minutes.

I'd love for them to pick up a low cost vet like Pryzbilla or Jeff Foster as Favors and Kanter develop their game; but I wouldn't hold my breath on either one of them. The reality is they'll probably pick up another Elson-like guy off the scrap heap. Definitely need another body though.
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Another body at PF/C? You are crazy. In all of this you left out both Millsap and Evans. So we have Kanter, Favors, Jefferson, Okur, Millsap, and Evans already on the roster. That is 6 guys for 2 spots. Rumor is they are also talking to AK who can also play PF. We should be looking for PG's, SG's and SF's more than anything. While using our excess of bigs to get a quality SF or young PG should be our main priority. Adding another big body to this roster is pointless (Unless it's Howard but that ain't happenin.)
 
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