Game Thread Feb 27, 2022 01:30PM MT: Jazz at Suns

[Moonlight Graham]

Conley just seems...... Off. And he seems to have gotten even shorter or something

Agreed, I'm starting to worry about Conley. We need to somehow get him back to the level he was playing at early in the year.

 

[fishonjazz]

I remember this entire board wanting Crowder gone. Am I misremembering?

Eh. Some did and some didn't. I hated him for his inefficient chucking but loved him for his toughness, defense, and attitude/swagger.

 

[fishonjazz]

I really like Forrest but every game there is a play when he gets the ball and is wide open from three and is scared to do anything.
Man i wish he could shoot

 

[Elizah Huge]

Eh. Some did and some didn't. I hated him for his inefficient chucking but loved him for his toughness, defense, and attitude/swagger.

You sir understand the Crowder experience. You just described him perfectly. His playoffs with us he was historically bad shooting from the field.

 

[infection]

I wonder in an alternate universe what it would have looked like if we traded Conley to OKC for CP3. At the time we all hated CP3 (still do) and his contract was large. I think he would have been the irritant, as well as annoying leader, that we lack. I think Rudy would be averaging a lot more points and his strong (toxic) personality would dampen down any Rudy/DM beef as he probably wouldn’t tolerate the same type of distracting off-court drama. Now most all of us would have never made that move at the time, but we’re often told that these executives know what’s up and possess an All-Seeing-Eye-of-Truth. If that is indeed the case, why didn’t they foresee this? Are we able to hold them accountable in hindsight, or are we only able to invoke “lol they totally know everything” when a move looks bad in the present and we’re forecasting into the future?

 

[Elizah Huge]

I wonder in an alternate universe what it would have looked like if we traded Conley to OKC for CP3. At the time we all hated CP3 (still do) and his contract was large. I think he would have been the irritant, as well as annoying leader, that we lack. I think Rudy would be averaging a lot more points and his strong (toxic) personality would dampen down any Rudy/DM beef as he probably wouldn’t tolerate the same type of distracting off-court drama. Now most all of us would have never made that move at the time, but we’re often told that these executives know what’s up and possess an All-Seeing-Eye-of-Truth. If that is indeed the case, why didn’t they foresee this? Are we able to hold them accountable in hindsight, or are we only able to invoke “lol they totally know everything” when a move looks bad in the present and we’re forecasting into the future?

Don’t be silly Chris Paul was washed and still is. Why would we have traded Conley for him?

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Conley just seems...... Off. And he seems to have gotten even shorter or something

He’s looking his age he’s no longer in his prime and slowing down, and his floater is garbage all of a sudden.

Right on all points. That three he hit was about as contested as you will ever see

He also missed a contested 3 he shouldn’t have taken.

Eh. Some did and some didn't. I hated him for his inefficient chucking but loved him for his toughness, defense, and attitude/swagger.

This wasn’t exactly my experience. I was more upset we traded Allen, he was not a good defender. He showed intangibles heart and hustle, and an enforcer attitude in the middle of games then would do something stupid like today in the clutch. His biggest problem was he’d get caught napping and someone would blow by him with little resistance causing help to be late, this happened to him twice late, allowing both Conley and Clarkson to do straight line drives for wide open layups. He had propensity to get hot every now and then, but when he wasn’t hot he shot us out of games, or there were games he’d hit one or two threes early and then start chucking ill advised shots all game long. It drove me nuts. Every time he got the ball I got scared.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I’d much rather have O’Neale who stays in his lane more, not a good defender vs smaller quicker guards, but Crowder isn’t either, and is a better defender and rebounder then crowder with out all the lapses and now we have House who I think is the best out of the three.

 

[LoPo]

For as much as we can bash the inconsistent offensive player that he is, we have desperately missed having Crowder the last two poatseasons.

It didn't have to be a Conley or Crowder conversation. Our front office should have found a way to include Favors instead of Crowder for Conley. Instead, we just traded Favors for a 2nd rounder to NOLA.

Crowder isn't perfect, but he's a tone setter. You put him and Chris Paul on a roster, and you take perennial loser Booker to the best record in the NBA.

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[Thee Jazz Fan]

For as much as we can bash the inconsistent offensive player that he is, we have desperately missed having Crowder the last two poatseasons.

So much eye roll in this post, where to begin. Crowder made sooooo many blunders down the stretch, both Paschall and Gay are are better then him. Better defenders, as good a 3pt shooter who doesn’t take ill advised shots at the worst time in crunch time no less, and it didn’t get any better come playoff time. He couldn’t handle the pressure, and showed it time after time.

It didn't have to be a Conley or Crowder conversation. Our front office should have found a way to include Favors instead of Crowder for Conley. Instead, we just traded Favors for a 2nd rounder to NOLA.

HTF do you know they didn’t try to include Favors? I love how you talk as if you’re in the inner circle of the organization.

Crowder isn't perfect, but he's a tone setter. You put him and Chris Paul on a roster, and you take perennial loser Booker to the best record in the NBA.

Crowder has very little to do with that equation, if he did we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

Now don’t go starting the Pippen and Crowder, most disrespected players in nba history thread.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

For as much as we can bash the inconsistent offensive player that he is, we have desperately missed having Crowder the last two poatseasons.

It didn't have to be a Conley or Crowder conversation. Our front office should have found a way to include Favors instead of Crowder for Conley. Instead, we just traded Favors for a 2nd rounder to NOLA.

Crowder isn't perfect, but he's a tone setter. You put him and Chris Paul on a roster, and you take perennial loser Booker to the best record in the NBA.

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Lmao at attributing that to Crowder. It's Paul and Ayton that took that team from bad to great. The wings are a bonus and he's the worst one of the main 3.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I’m pretty sure Crowder is a big reason my hair line is receding.