Can We Just Flipping Sign House Please!

[NUMBERICA]

What is crazy is House is exactly the kind of player we have needed. Good D, passable 3 pt shooter, energy guy with a bit of an attitude. Pretty lucky he fell into our laps. We need to lock him up for a few years. More or less slot him into Ingles' spot. Of course, we should bring back Ingles next year on a vet min to help us get our 2nd ring.

I think Ingles is out on the Jazz.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think Ingles is out on the Jazz.

He might be but if he gets more than a minimum from someone next year it will be an overpay. He looked cooked before the injury and I’m not sure if he ever gets all the way back.

 

[NUMBERICA]

He might be but if he gets more than a minimum from someone next year it will be an overpay. He looked cooked before the injury and I’m not sure if he ever gets all the way back.

He’ll be back better. I think the injury might’ve actually extended his career.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

He’ll be back better. I think the injury might’ve actually extended his career.

I hope so but I doubt it. It’s generally viewed as a two year deal. One year of rehab and one year of playing at a much lower level while you get your legs back. 2 years puts him at 36… we shall see.

 

[infection]

I hope so but I doubt it. It’s generally viewed as a two year deal. One year of rehab and one year of playing at a much lower level while you get your legs back. 2 years puts him at 36… we shall see.

Joe lied about his age to get into the draft. He was born in 1993.

 

[Jingled]

Sounds like Portland intends to keep Joe and are willing to pay more than the minimum to do so.

Counted in that flexibility is Joe Ingles, whom he acquired in a trade with Utah, even though the 34-year-old tore his ACL in January. Cronin says acquiring Ingles, whose contract expires after this season, was not necessarily a salary-cap saving move. Because the Blazers acquired him in a trade, they acquire his Bird rights, which means they go over the salary cap to sign him and don’t need a separate exception to do so.

“It was about the player; Joe is a good player,” Cronin said. “He has the unique mix of talent, skillset and mentality we are looking for.”

https://theathletic.com/3153936/202...n-create-space-then-find-talent/?source=nbatw

 

[SoberasHotRod]

I think Ingles is out on the Jazz.

It's definitely gone down differently than I expected. I'm not sure what is real though. Does Portland really value his bird rights and want to pay him more than minimum?

 

[infection]

It's definitely gone down differently than I expected. I'm not sure what is real though. Does Portland really value his bird rights and want to pay him more than minimum?

It's very bizarre. When they first were saying they traded for his bird rights, it seemed like obvious BS. There are a myriad of reasons why it doesn't sense, including him being the age he is coming of a major injury where he won't even play until late into next season. The necessity of bird rights seems odd because, as mentioned, you wouldn't pay above the minimum for that. But then they had him report. Then they sent one of their trainers to be with him for surgery in Chicago (maybe this is routine, I don't know, but still odd), then he's going out there for a home stretch to be at games. He's already attended a game or games.

Unless they think they can retool and they're wanting his presence and see him as the guy who was sixth man runner up last year and didn't see how bad this year was. I have no clue. It's baffling. Perhaps it's a better strategy to really keep all options open as opposed to us who just waived guys like Derrick Rose.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

It's very bizarre. When they first were saying they traded for his bird rights, it seemed like obvious BS. There are a myriad of reasons why it doesn't sense, including him being the age he is coming of a major injury where he won't even play until late into next season. The necessity of bird rights seems odd because, as mentioned, you wouldn't pay above the minimum for that. But then they had him report. Then they sent one of their trainers to be with him for surgery in Chicago (maybe this is routine, I don't know, but still odd), then he's going out there for a home stretch to be at games. He's already attended a game or games.

Unless they think they can retool and they're wanting his presence and see him as the guy who was sixth man runner up last year and didn't see how bad this year was. I have no clue. It's baffling. Perhaps it's a better strategy to really keep all options open as opposed to us who just waived guys like Derrick Rose.

I wonder if it's taken Joe by surprise as well. It has to be flattering though.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It's very bizarre. When they first were saying they traded for his bird rights, it seemed like obvious BS. There are a myriad of reasons why it doesn't sense, including him being the age he is coming of a major injury where he won't even play until late into next season. The necessity of bird rights seems odd because, as mentioned, you wouldn't pay above the minimum for that. But then they had him report. Then they sent one of their trainers to be with him for surgery in Chicago (maybe this is routine, I don't know, but still odd), then he's going out there for a home stretch to be at games. He's already attended a game or games.

Unless they think they can retool and they're wanting his presence and see him as the guy who was sixth man runner up last year and didn't see how bad this year was. I have no clue. It's baffling. Perhaps it's a better strategy to really keep all options open as opposed to us who just waived guys like Derrick Rose.

Who plays more non-garbage time minutes next season? NAW or Ingles? Who would you rather pay $5M next year?

If they valued Joe the player we probably shouldn’t have had to give up 2 seconds… they were pretty horrible second rounders so I honestly don’t care that much. I wish we could give them truth pills so they could just tell us they made a short sighted financial move that came with an expensive lotto ticket.

 

[infection]

Who plays more non-garbage time minutes next season? NAW or Ingles? Who would you rather pay $5M next year?

If they valued Joe the player we probably shouldn’t have had to give up 2 seconds… they were pretty horrible second rounders so I honestly don’t care that much. I wish we could give them truth pills so they could just tell us they made a short sighted financial move that came with an expensive lotto ticket.

It’s pretty terrible and with NAW moving to Portland and things happening so fast, I don’t think they fully understood the ramifications of cutting $3M from this year’s cap to add $5M next year. No way they pull the trigger when they see it in that light. Just wrap it up and say “we like Joe and he’s a big part of this franchise,” because really, the real money move (compared to what we did) was to just let Joe expire.

 

[Rubashov]

He might be but if he gets more than a minimum from someone next year it will be an overpay. He looked cooked before the injury and I’m not sure if he ever gets all the way back.