Protestors storm capital

[Red]

Red, serious question.
You were around for the Nixon years, right?
How bad is the national "morale" compared to then, do you think?
What turned it around?

I got to thinking about your question a bit more yesterday. It’s actually easy to identify what turned the “national morale” around. Simply put, the end of the Vietnam War. The Nixon years were all about ending that war, as he had promised he would do.

I believe the morale today seems worse to me, JMO, because the threat today feels more existential to me, as if we were heading down a road that we are going to regret like nothing before this, with the exception of the Civil War.

But, in terms of intensity, the Nixon years were part of one of the largest social movements in American history. It was far more demonstrative than anything we have seen in recent years these days. Not even close. Citizen activism dwarfed what we see today. And there was a left/right division symbolized by “Hell no, I won’t go”(left) vs. “America, love it or leave it”.(right) Groups like Students for a Democratic Society(SDS) carried out violent attacks. The massacre at Kent State on May 4th, 1970 galvanized the anti-war moment, as campuses nation wide went on a student strike.

Vietnam-era Antiwar Protests (map) - Mapping American Social Movements Project

depts.washington.edu

So, those tumultuous times were like no other in my lifetime. But, that was then, and this is now. And now seems more precarious and dangerous to me, in terms of not losing something that I cannot always put my finger on, but obviously has to do with preserving free and fair elections, and preventing single party rule.

 

[Deleted member 365]

@Red yer another example of Fox News feeding the base vitriol.



Reagan promised to nominate a woman for his SC pick… if Nixon had had this, he wouldn’t have needed to resign. He could’ve kept at least a minority of 30-40 percent of Americans solidly in his corner.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I didn’t know whether to put this here or in the most punchable faces thread. But Bill Barr. read this tweet and the tagged tweet. Barr knew what trump was planning and did nothing to prevent it.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Soooo uhhhh Ginni Thomas? We cool with the wife of a Supreme Court justice texting the chief of staff to plead to overturn election results? We cool with the justice covering for her and trying to block the release of Jan 6 communications? That’s just fine and dandy now these days since nothing ever matters?

 

[One Brow]

Soooo uhhhh Ginni Thomas? We cool with the wife of a Supreme Court justice texting the chief of staff to plead to overturn election results? We cool with the justice covering for her and trying to block the release of Jan 6 communications? That’s just fine and dandy now these days since nothing ever matters?

Whether it's fine and dandy or not, there are five other justices covering for Ginni Thomas, so even an impeachment wouldn't change anything (and I'm not saying Thomas should be impeached over his wife's actions nor over a refusal to recuse).

 

[Deleted member 365]

Whether it's fine and dandy or not, there are five other justices covering for Ginni Thomas, so even an impeachment wouldn't change anything (and I'm not saying Thomas should be impeached over his wife's actions nor over a refusal to recuse).

5 other justices covering from Ginni? How do you figure? He was literally the lone dissenting vote. Are we talking about different SC cases? Not only did he refuse to recuse himself (he should have due to his wife's involvement) but he was the lone dissenting vote (which looks at least unethical if not outright obstruction of justice).

Clarence Thomas was the only justice to dissent in an 8-1 Supreme Court decision that rejected Trump’s efforts to block the House Jan. 6 Committee from obtaining related documents from the National Archives—documents like the Meadows-Ginni Thomas text conversation.

Ginni Thomas Is a Total QAnon Fangirl, She Revealed in Texts to Mark Meadows

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas’ wife referenced several QAnon conspiracy theories in texts to Trump White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows.

www.vice.com

so even an impeachment wouldn't change anything (and I'm not saying Thomas should be impeached over his wife's actions nor over a refusal to recuse).

We all know that Republicans won't do a damn thing. Trump, Thomas, Kavanaugh could literally crucify Christ and their base wouldn't care as long as Christ appeared to support CRT, Abortion, Socialism, Mr. Potato head, or whatever thing Fox News is raging about. The issue is attempting to hold these people to account. There's no way Republicans would let this pass if the shoe were placed on the other foot. Put Republicans on the defensive. Time to insist that ethics and/or law be upheld. While I'm unsure if the Thomas family has broken any laws, certainly the ethics have been broken. Chief Justice Roberts (and Thomas for that matter lol) have expressed interest in maintaining the appearance of the courts being legitimate and non-partisan. This certainly threatens that.

It's time to call for Thomas to resign. And it's beyond time for the DOJ to look into what Clarence knew about Jan 6 and when he knew it. If he was found colluding with the Trump admin in fomenting the insurrection or in obstructing justice, he needs to be prosecuted.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

It's time to call for Thomas to resign.

It is time to call for Sonia Sotomayor to resign. Her hairsytylist's brother had a substance abuse problem which has clearly affected Sotomayor's impartiality on anything related to crime. Sotomayor needs to be investigated immediately and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law if it is found she in any way gave comfort or aid to her hairstylist's brother.

 

[fishonjazz]

It is time to call for Sonia Sotomayor to resign. Her hairsytylist's brother had a substance abuse problem which has clearly affected Sotomayor's impartiality on anything related to crime. Sotomayor needs to be investigated immediately and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law if it is found she in any way gave comfort or aid to her hairstylist's brother.

Strange post

 

[Gameface]

Strange post

Strange is a very generous way to put it.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Strange post

I thought The Thriller playing 6-degrees of Kevin Bacon to get Clarence Thomas to resign was funny.

Did Clarence Thomas make people storm the Capitol on January 6?

No, but he's married to Ginni Thomas.

Did Ginni Thomas make people storm the Capitol on January 6?

No, but she once sent a text message to the Chief of Staff.

Did the Chief of Staff make people storm the Capitol on January 6?

No, but the Chief of Staff worked for Trump and so Clarence Thomas has to resign now.

The Thriller gets angry when people chant "Lock Her Up!", but at least that is for stuff Hillary actually did. On the other side The Thriller wants people he sees as conservative to be prosecuted for things possibly done by someone who knows someone who has a tenuous connection to someone who knows the person he wants the government to eliminate.

 

[gandalfe]

It is time to call for Sonia Sotomayor to resign. Her hairsytylist's brother had a substance abuse problem which has clearly affected Sotomayor's impartiality on anything related to crime. Sotomayor needs to be investigated immediately and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law if it is found she in any way gave comfort or aid to her hairstylist's brother.

The fact that you can't see a difference between a wife and a fictional hairstylist's brother speaks wonders for your marriage.

 

[Deleted member 365]

The fact that you can't see a difference between a wife and a fictional hairstylist's brother speaks wonders for your marriage.

It also highlights a fundamental problem with our society, pampered idiots bored with life, obsessed with culture wars and partisanship not taking government seriously. They equate sexist or weirdo cultural issues to serious offenses detrimental to our democracy. You see this all the time from unserious people like Charlie Kirk, Donald Trump, and Tucker Carlson. It's a juvenile, "whataboutism" that is very damaging to our democracy. It's a defense they deploy when they know that what they're attempting to defend is indefensible so they try and "play it off."

Sure, Thomas's wife was working to overturn the 2020 election along with the President's Chief of Staff Mark Meadows. And boy, it sure seems like her husband, a Supreme Court ****ing Justice attempted to cover it up. And him being impeached/talked to resign would hurt my feelings because that would take the court down to a 5-4 conservative majority instead of a dominating 6-3. And I cannot admit defeat, I must own the libs! So I must engage in whatabout Hunter's laptop, CRT, and Hillary's email to hopefully filibuster this story away until the next newscycle.

A democracy cannot survive when 40 percent of the electorate and the majority of one of the two major political parties just refuses to play by the norms, rules, and laws set.

Again, could you imagine the meltdown on Fox News today if it was reported that a spouse of a liberal Supreme Court had been working to overturn the 2016 election and install Hillary Clinton as President? Could you imagine???

I hope posters remember this for when @Al-O-Meter pretends to be serious poster arguing in good faith. He isn't. He's just another troll. Bored with life and religion, using politics and trolling with politics as a form of entertainment. Someone who values pathetic culture wars and tribalism over the well-being of our democracy. I just have no respect for these losers.