Game Thread Mar 29, 2022 08:00PM MT: Jazz at Clippers

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Because shockingly, he's the only shooter on our entire team. He's the only guy on our roster who will just stand there waiting for the ball and hits the shot without hesitation.

Sure we have guys who can shoot, but they don't do it in the way that opens up the space necessary to do Rudy stuff or let Don get to the rim.

Our Front Office is terrible. What a wasted era.

Are you mad? Conley not a shooter who opens up space?

Jazz got ZERO issue with not having enough shooters or space. Their issue is ball movement to take advantage of space and manipulate defenders is not there. It's all dribble drive stuff from the 3 main ball-handlers. The bigger issue is the loss of Ingles as a ball-handler and playmaker.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Are you mad? Conley not a shooter who opens up space?

Jazz got ZERO issue with not having enough shooters or space. Their issue is ball movement to take advantage of space and manipulate defenders is not there. It's all dribble drive stuff from the 3 main ball-handlers. The bigger issue is the loss of Ingles as a ball-handler and playmaker.

He didn’t watch the game… he said so.

If you had watched you’d know where it went wrong. We are up double digits and with 8 minutes to go we go into the hero ball offense like it’s 1-2 minutes left. Clips still run their normal stuff and get good shots… and you could feel the waive of momentum coming so hard and then panic ensues.

 

[MTS]

Oh I don't know. I didn't watch the game. I just threw rebounding out there as an example.

Then you shouldn't have commented - because there were MANY instances where Gobert contested a player's shot only for the Clippers to score off a tip-in because nobody else on the Jazz bothered to get between their man and the basket.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Then you shouldn't have commented - because there were MANY instances where Gobert contested a player's shot only for the Clippers to score off a tip-in because nobody else on the Jazz bothered to get between their man and the basket.

I agree with this. Hartenstein also got Rudy on his floater a couple times because Rudy was likely a little out of position.

The team is just too flawed and too mentally broken to be anything more than a team that wins 50 games and gets out of the first round every other year.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I agree with this. Hartenstein also got Rudy on his floater a couple times because Rudy was likely a little out of position.

The team is just too flawed and too mentally broken to be anything more than a team that wins 50 games and gets out of the first round every other year.

Yeah, Rudy was way too passive on those floaters. You can do that in the 2nd quarter, but in the 4th you got to be in people's faces.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, Rudy was way too passive on those floaters. You can do that in the 2nd quarter, but in the 4th you got to be in people's faces.

And I kind of don’t blame him because it’s this vicious trust cycle problem. Rudy came in hard and contested a few shots that miss and no one bothers to help him out so he feels like he has to be in position to contest and to rebound.

I really felt Juan needed to be out there for JC. Donovan gonna shoot and handle anyway… why bother with having JC out there.

 

[LogGrad98]

And I kind of don’t blame him because it’s this vicious trust cycle problem. Rudy came in hard and contested a few shots that miss and no one bothers to help him out so he feels like he has to be in position to contest and to rebound.

I really felt Juan needed to be out there for JC. Donovan gonna shoot and handle anyway… why bother with having JC out there.

Juancho should have definitely closed the game. We needed some extra rebounding and hustle.

But the system called for extra heros so hero ball would not stall out. It is what the system demanded, no way QS could go against that. Whatchagonnado?

 

[Kmurr499]

The lack of defense and rebounding is ridiculous. That has been the root of the problem all year. No accountability on defense. All about offense. Sometimes hero ball is necessary when 2 of the 5 players on the floor have no offensive game. In most situations down the stretch it is difficult to get into any offensive sets. Especially against teams with athletic wings that can switch. Having Bogey out doesn't help.

 

[LoPo]

Then you shouldn't have commented - because there were MANY instances where Gobert contested a player's shot only for the Clippers to score off a tip-in because nobody else on the Jazz bothered to get between their man and the basket.

Still not the point of my posts regarding Rudy. I didn't critique how he played at all. I critiqued Donovan actually.

I have a problem with Rudy's comments after the game. Again. His quotes are all about how the team got away from this etc and he never owns any role he might have played in yet another collapse.

So yeah, read up.

 

[LoPo]

Yeah, Rudy was way too passive on those floaters. You can do that in the 2nd quarter, but in the 4th you got to be in people's faces.

@MT Steve

Just remember, I didn't say this. Somebody else did. I didn't watch the game.

But I would gain respect for Rudy if he came out and admitted he didn't close out on defense well enough in the 4th. But he doesn't do that type of thing. He likes to concentrate on how much he didn't get the ball.

 

[homeytennis]

Quin's systems make his players have to think too much instead of react. In close games that is usually fatal.

 

[MTS]

Still not the point of my posts regarding Rudy. I didn't critique how he played at all. I critiqued Donovan actually.

I have a problem with Rudy's comments after the game. Again. His quotes are all about how the team got away from this etc and he never owns any role he might have played in yet another collapse.

So yeah, read up.

Gobert post game: "There’s a lot of things to look at, I missed five free throws." "It’s part of the game, but you don’t win without getting — you can be as good as you want, but it’s mental. And it starts with me. Like, when guys are going at me and they score, it affects the whole team. And when I give up an offensive rebound or something like that."

So yeah, read up.