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Roe v. Wade is going down

The Thriller said:
This ain’t just about abortion either.

It’s about birth control, voting rights, and the LGBT community. The scotus and GOP have proven to be hostile towards these things.

This ****ing isn’t going to ****ing end with Roe folks. They’re going to target birth control and gay marriage next. Collective bargaining rights and the EPA after that. Interracial marriage and brown v board aren’t too far behind.

If you care about the rights and freedoms we currently enjoy, you should be angry and upset right now. So ****ing angry that you vote every single Republican out of office this fall with democrats. And keep voting them out until they learn to leave these things alone.

Keep the House in Democratic hands and give them a few more Democratic senators so they can codify abortion, gay marriage etc. change the makeup of the Supreme Court or hell, change the structure of it. Why don’t we have 21 judges serving 10 year terms? Any given case might get a random 7 or 15 judge case. Why have we stopped imagining a better structure? Why do we settle for a 6-3 Supreme Court full of ideologues where we know the outcome of every case before they’re even debated?
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If you don’t think red states aren’t going to immediately move to shred LGBT rights as soon as this Supreme Court kills Obergefell, then I have beach front property to sell ya.


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Texas GOP's new platform calls homosexuality 'abnormal' and includes explicitly anti-LGBTQ ideology

The Republican Party of Texas adopted a platform that includes explicitly anti-LGBTQ ideology at its biennial convention on Saturday.
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Rubashov said:
Reproductive rights are just another way for men to exert power and control over women. If you own nothing in life you own your own body and what goes in and out of it. I suppose if women wanted that sort of freedom they should have been born as men yeah? There is nothing to celebrate in this, it is a defeat for men and women all over your country.
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Yup.
 
str8line said:
Justice Breyer said the court has become activist politicians, not justices.
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They are. They're legislating that which Republicans don't have the votes for. Part of the genius is that they're shielded from being held to account. If Republicans proposed a ban on abortion, they'd face consequences electorally. But now that the Supreme Court did their dirty work for them, how can voters hold Republican justices accountable?

This impacts more than just abortion, but anything related to privacy. From contraception to gay marriage.

What's really sad to me is how you dig yourself out of this? Even if the filibuster were blown and abortion, gay marriage, voting rights, gun control (take your pick of any topic) codified, this activist Supreme Court (majority w/justices nominated by presidents who have lost the pop vote) could just blow up the legislation.

So how do you fix this? Really, the only option Americans have is to expand the court, create term limits on the justices, and reform how cases are argued. What would be wrong with expanding the court to 15 or 21 justices with 10 year terms and for a random selection of 11 out of 15 or 21 set to hear arguments? Seriously, what would be wrong with this? Someone tell me since I see nothing wrong with this other than partisan hacks wouldn't get their way. Wouldn't we see a better and fairer court? Instead, as it stands right now, we know how every major issue is going to be decided and how. Seriously, think about it. Whether we're talking about workers' rights, gun rights, health care, environment, gay rights, etc we all know that the conservative majority will win 6-3 or 5-4. So why even take time to bring cases up anymore tbh until the Judicial Branch is reformed?
 
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At least Republicans should be at peace now, right? I mean, for years now they've been "angry" over "losing the country" and have everyday screamed about needing to, "take the country back."

Well... In the last 10 years...
  • They've gutted voting rights
  • Gutted key provisions in the ACA
  • Passed tax cuts for the rich
  • Got 3 Supreme Court justices
  • Got us out of the Paris climate agreement and the Iranian nuclear deal
  • Beat Hillary
  • Pardoned war criminals
  • Put brown kids in cages
  • Have bent all major media outlets to frame every major story through a right wing lens (we need both sides to a story both sides since telling the facts just isn't good enough)
  • Are probably going to win the 2022 midterms only 2 years after Jan 6 and their attempt to overturn the election
  • Overturned Miranda and abortion
  • Soon will overturn gay marriage

So they should be happy, right? They're winning, right? So I'm sure this will be reflected in the tone of every major right wing host, right? I mean, they've "taken the country back" haven't' they?
 
The Thriller said:
So how do you fix this?
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The same way it happened. The current justices will die out. Replace them with ones who see the law differently. Expanding the court doesn't fix any of this, it just slows down the transitions.

Meanwhile, tens of thousands of people will suffer. We can't avoid it. The callousness of the Republicans will be exposed. Voters may or may not care.
 
The Thriller said:
They are. They're legislating that which Republicans don't have the votes for. Part of the genius is that they're shielded from being held to account. If Republicans proposed a ban on abortion, they'd face consequences electorally. But now that the Supreme Court did their dirty work for them, how can voters hold Republican justices accountable?
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I do not understand how you function.

1) The courts didn't ban abortion. They said abortion isn't protected by the structures of the republic and returned it to the purview of the democratic structures of our government.

2) If abortion is to be banned, then it will need to be proposed and legislated by someone. Those people are likely to be Republicans.

3) Those proposing and legislating any ban on abortion can be held accountable via democracy because they are in the democratically elected part of the government. That the people can electorally hold to account those who would ban abortion is thanks entirely to this decision.

You are 180 degrees backwards on all of how our government functions and YOU TEACH YOUR MISINFORMATION IN SCHOOLS!!!!!
 
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