Donovan Mitchell unlikely to ask for trade per ESPN’s Brian Windhorst

[Elizah Huge]

Did you actually read that... because it is clearly about the team pushing back on Donovan guiding the franchise.

He did not.

 

[LogGrad98]

Are you telling me captain loyalty might have actually asked to go? We did seem to be shopping him from the very beginning this offseason.

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He may have also just seen the writing on the wall. It is no secret they did not get along, and it is also no surprise to a player like Gobert that they are going to stick with the guy with star power, who is younger, who hangs out with the big guns in the off-season, making sure he is seen in the right pictures and on the right instagrams, over the guy that just wants to play and win and calls it like he sees it, even if it is rough around the edges and rubs people the wrong way. So with that he may have been very receptive when the FO approached his camp about being traded, and yes maybe he even brought it up in the first place, since he probably saw something coming anyway. Might as well get ahead of it and spin it for the positive as much as possible, which he has done very well so far imo. I have been in that situation at work during a layoff. I loved the company, would likely still be there today as I think they are still a great company, but when the layoffs came I knew I was getting the boot over the guy that had been there for a dozen years and had built up all the relationships I had not in my 3 years there. Doesn't mean I was less loyal, I just understood where it was all going and took it like a man.

 

[Elizah Huge]

He may have also just seen the writing on the wall. It is no secret they did not get along, and it is also no surprise to a player like Gobert that they are going to stick with the guy with star power, who is younger, who hangs out with the big guns in the off-season, making sure he is seen in the right pictures and on the right instagrams, over the guy that just wants to play and win and calls it like he sees it, even if it is rough around the edges and rubs people the wrong way. So with that he may have been very receptive when the FO approached his team about being traded, and yes maybe he even brought it up in the first place. I have been in that situation at work during a layoff. I loved the company, would likely still be there today as I think they are still a great company, but when the layoffs came I knew I was getting the boot over the guy that had been there for a dozen years and had built up all the relationships I had not in my 3 years there. Doesn't mean I was less loyal, I just understood where it was all going and took it like a man.

The article wasn’t about Gobert it was about Ainge pushing back on Donovan’s control within the franchise.

 

[KqWIN]

I don’t think myself or HH think the Knicks package is worse if it’s the same picks and Barrett.

If you told me it’s the same picks as Miami but they’re not including Barrett… the Miami deal is better. If you’re not sending Barrett you need to send more picks (likely all of your picks).

Haha….I’m pretty sure I know how HH feels about Barrett. Everyone can like whoever they like as a player, but it’s all the same at the end of the day. The Knicks 100% have the means to beat the MIA offer….I’d be shocked if they don’t have the desire.

The Knicks not wanting Don more than the Heat do is just not something I believe. I’ll believe it if the MIA deal gets done, but until then I can’t really be convinced. If you tell the Knicks Don is gone to MIA tomorrow, they get back to you with an offer that beats MIA.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Haha….I’m pretty sure I know how HH feels about Barrett. Everyone can like whoever they like as a player, but it’s all the same at the end of the day. The Knicks 100% have the means to beat the MIA offer….I’d be shocked if they don’t have the desire.

The Knicks not wanting Don more than the Heat do is just not something I believe. I’ll believe it if the MIA deal gets done, but until then I can’t really be convinced. If you tell the Knicks Don is gone to MIA tomorrow, they get back to you with an offer that beats MIA.

Nobody is saying the Knicks don’t have the means that’s blatantly obvious.

What if Ainge does call and they don’t match what Miami is offering. Should we not take a deal now because we think they will offer more in the future or some other team will?

 

[LogGrad98]

The article wasn’t about Gobert it was about Ainge pushing back on Donovan’s control within the franchise.

I was responding to this comment, not to the article.:

Are you telling me captain loyalty might have actually asked to go? We did seem to be shopping him from the very beginning this offseason.

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The snarky "captain loyalty" is a reference to Gobert. I was responding to that aspect of the comment.

 

[LoPo]

Did you actually read that... because it is clearly about the team pushing back on Donovan guiding the franchise.

Aren't there other reports that Don clearly has not asked out? Why does this report trump all others?

I'm not assuming Rudy asked out, but just asking the question - is it possible he did after Quin left? Possible at all?

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[Elizah Huge]

I was responding to this comment, not to the article.:



The snarky "captain loyalty" is a reference to Gobert. I was responding to that aspect of the comment.

Gotcha, he clearly didn’t read the article.

 

[KqWIN]

They won't give up that many unprotected picks... they will give one or two and then give the others they own maybe. Donovan is one of their "guys" but they will have limits to how far they go for Don now that they have Brunson.

****** teams don't give up unprotected picks unless they are completely desperate... Knicks are no longer completely desperate.

This is the last time I’m going to say this, but whatever package you think is slightly better the Heat, the Knicks can do it. They have so much more to offer. There’s a million ways they could conjure up a package that’s slightly (or more than slightly) better.

The question is whether they have the desire. I think they do. MIA is not overpaying, they’re not even paying even value. You’re not even asking the Knicks to beat a good offer, just better than the Heat offer that is not good to begin with.

 

[KqWIN]

Nobody is saying the Knicks don’t have the means that’s blatantly obvious.

What if Ainge does call and they don’t match what Miami is offering. Should we not take a deal now because we think they will offer more in the future or some other team will?

It would be shocking to me if NYK do not want Donovan at such a cheap price, but I don’t believe you take a bad deal because it’s the only one available. Especially when it comes to star players.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Aren't there other reports that Don clearly has not asked out? Why does this report trump all others?

I'm not assuming Rudy asked out, but just asking the question - is it possible he did after Quin left? Possible at all?

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Did you read it

 

[Elizah Huge]

It would be shocking to me if NYK do not want Donovan at such a cheap price, but I don’t believe you take a bad deal because it’s the only one available. Especially when it comes to star players.

Cheap price? He’d be going for an unprotected pick + two pick swaps more than Dejounte and that’s not even counting the players yet. How is that cheap?