Yep. Ignore my enthusiasm. I didn't read the trade right. I still like it though. 76ers also get Bogey and Clarkson. But if we have to do this for Laker picks then I would go for it."Danny snacks"... I like that.
Yep. Ignore my enthusiasm. I didn't read the trade right. I still like it though. 76ers also get Bogey and Clarkson. But if we have to do this for Laker picks then I would go for it."Danny snacks"... I like that.
It was one Laker pick, though (27), and 76ers in '29 (which might be just as good).Yep. Ignore my enthusiasm. I didn't read the trade right. I still like it though. 76ers also get Bogey and Clarkson. But if we have to do this for Laker picks then I would go for it.
I love this idea.
The Jazz trade Mike Conley and the '27 Minesotta pick and gets the '27 and '29 Lakers picks. Conley goes to a team near Columbus (the Pacers). They receive Westbrook and Matthias Thybulle. The only downside is the Jazz take on 29 million in salary. Yikes! The Jazz are forced then to stretch/waive Westbrook to back out of the tax.
But, you still have Bogey, Clarkson, Beasely, and Vando and have the Laker picks. Omyfreakingheck what an accumulation and home run!? Just get the disgruntled DeAndre Ayton in January and the team won't need to tank. You can get a star in the middle of the '23 draft and just use the draft capital as it comes and develop talent which Utah is good at doing. That would be some fancy manuvering.
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I’m afraid the only value for Conley and Gay is salary fillerConley on the steep downhill side of his career is not worth anywhere near that value. We'll be lucky to get a protected pick with crappy filler contacts to match the dollars.
The waive and stretch provision is for twice the length of the years left on the contract plus one year. So it would be 14.3 million divided by three, which is ~4.8 million which is not a ton but certainly not nothing in a cap space year.Conley is guaranteed 14.3M next year. The Lakers could trade for him then waive and stretch him if they really needed to. He’d only count as 2.86M towards the cap the next 5 years.
The waive and stretch provision is for twice the length of the years left on the contract plus one year. So it would be 14.3 million divided by three, which is ~4.8 million which is not a ton but certainly not nothing in a cap space year.
I don’t think you make the trade expecting Westbrook to take a steep discount in a buyout. Instead, you make the trade prioritizing the assets and give him a number you can live with on the buyout. If he takes it, great. If not, you tell him to stay home and then wait until sometime after training camp to cut him. He’ll be forced to take the minimum because everyone will have used their MLE and allocated their roster spots and budget for the season. As long as the Jazz don’t tie up guaranteed money in future seasons, they can cut whoever they need to in order to get down to 15.This Westbrick scheme is such a bad idea on so many levels it’s not even funny anymore. First of all a deal like this assumes that the pigeon in the deal (Westbrick) is going to play ball and be bought out at a decent discount. So this grandstander that wouldn’t give the Lakers a discount (ala Harden) is all of a sudden going to change his stripes once traded? Absolutely not! Particularly with the articles out there stating he goes to China after us or Indy buys him out because he’s become that much of a pariah in the NBA. So your stuck with another malcontent on your bench that will do nothing in the way of player development.
And it’s one pick not two and the Lakers want Beasley and Clarkson to round out not Conley. Pelinka is trying to out-noodge the noodgemeister DA. This is a total ****-sandwich folks and Ainge is too smart to fall for it (prays)!
A much better route is to take Miami’s first for Duncan Robinson in a Bogey straight up, buy out Gay and Bass (bringing our roster down to 17 including the two ways) and keep Conley around as a mentor - he’s great in that capacity!
Much better options out there than that. Clarkson and Beasley garner a first on their own in the right deal.I don’t think you make the trade expecting Westbrook to take a steep discount in a buyout. Instead, you make the trade prioritizing the assets and give him a number you can live with on the buyout. If he takes it, great. If not, you tell him to stay home and then wait until sometime after training camp to cut him. He’ll be forced to take the minimum because everyone will have used their MLE and allocated their roster spots and budget for the season. As long as the Jazz don’t tie up guaranteed money in future seasons, they can cut whoever they need to in order to get down to 15.
I’d be happy to see the Jazz keep Clarkson, but why do you see the Jazz holding onto him? Doesn’t he fall into the same category of aging vets that don’t help the tank as Conley and Bogey do?I’m not reporting anything with this comment and this is just a guess but I don’t see the Jazz trading Jordan Clarkson…..
I’d be happy to see the Jazz keep Clarkson, but why do you see the Jazz holding onto him? Doesn’t he fall into the same category of aging vets that don’t help the tank as Conley and Bogey do?
I don't want to trade our remaining talent just so we can suck and tank. I only want to trade talent if we get a good, sweet return for it.
Beasley maybe - at the deadline depending on how the Jazz use him. Clarkson seems to have depreciated dramatically in trade value in a little over a year. Chatter and rumors suggest you couldn’t get a first round pick for him right now.Much better options out there than that. Clarkson and Beasley garner a first on their own in the right deal.
Two firsts you might think about it but that’s not what’s on the table!
Much better options out there than that. Clarkson and Beasley garner a first on their own in the right deal.
Two firsts you might think about it but that’s not what’s on the table!
No it doesn’t.This Westbrick scheme is such a bad idea on so many levels it’s not even funny anymore. First of all a deal like this assumes that the pigeon in the deal (Westbrick) is going to play ball and be bought out at a decent discount.
And it’s not close at all. Finding premium assets right now are doubly important since the Jazz might not net one from the Donovan trade.I would take one of the Lakers unprotected 1sts vs two protected 1sts from some other teams (which is what those two would net us).