Lakers-Jazz Trade

[Handlogten's Heros]

So lets say the Lakers keep Russ cuz they think they can keep the powder dry and clear the cap to sign Kyrie...

They kill a year of Lebron and AD.

Spend a bunch more in tax this year.

Put their fans through a miserable experience.

All in hopes that Kyrie goes there (they don't have max but no one wants to pay Kyrie so it might be okay).

They gonna hope Kyrie/Lebron/AD wins a title in a one year window?

Because I hate the Lakers I am okay with this plan... but its kinda stupid. Their plan is to hope to get Kyrie... KYRIE!!! maybe the least dependable dude in the league.

 

[stitches]

Uhh, me and @stitches told yall from the start.

Utah likes THT and they feared a Russ/Indy trade would go down that included THT, so they overpaid to make sure they got him. It was really that simple.

Yep... very likely the FO liked THT much better than people here. But at the same time I want to point out that this doesn't preclude the possibility that we actually ****ed that **** up. Both can be true... we will see in due time.

 

[NUMBERICA]

So lets say the Lakers keep Russ cuz they think they can keep the powder dry and clear the cap to sign Kyrie...

They kill a year of Lebron and AD.

Spend a bunch more in tax this year.

Put their fans through a miserable experience.

All in hopes that Kyrie goes there (they don't have max but no one wants to pay Kyrie so it might be okay).

They gonna hope Kyrie/Lebron/AD wins a title in a one year window?

Because I hate the Lakers I am okay with this plan... but its kinda stupid. Their plan is to hope to get Kyrie... KYRIE!!! maybe the least dependable dude in the league.

And they still could with the Jazz's offer but also play for a ring this year too.

 

[framer]

Uhh, me and @stitches told yall from the start.

Utah likes THT and they feared a Russ/Indy trade would go down that included THT, so they overpaid to make sure they got him. It was really that simple.

I think if the Jazz don't make this trade the Lakers would have already traded a first and THT to Indy without involving Westbrook.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I think if the Jazz don't make this trade the Lakers would have already traded a first and THT to Indy without involving Westbrook.

That doesn’t make any sense.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think if the Jazz don't make this trade the Lakers would have already traded a first and THT to Indy without involving Westbrook.

And I think a block of Indy was partly the motivation… but obviously have to be okay with THT.

THT just makes no sense now that we acquired two additional guards… maybe they didn’t think the Cavs deal would happen… but we currently have:

Mike
Sexton
Ochai
Beasley
JC
THT
JB

Some can play the 3 at times but it’s not like THT has a great route to playing 25 minutes a night and I don’t want him to have the ball in his hands a ton. We obviously make a trade to clear out 1 or 2 of those guys…. But we don’t seem to be in a big hurry.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

That doesn’t make any sense.

They could have done THT plus some stuff for Turner and maybe only one pick… The pacers seem to have a weird thing with buying out Russ.

 

[homeytennis]

And I think a block of Indy was partly the motivation… but obviously have to be okay with THT.

THT just makes no sense now that we acquired two additional guards… maybe they didn’t think the Cavs deal would happen… but we currently have:

Mike
Sexton
Ochai
Beasley
JC
THT
JB

Some can play the 3 at times but it’s not like THT has a great route to playing 25 minutes a night and I don’t want him to have the ball in his hands a ton. We obviously make a trade to clear out 1 or 2 of those guys…. But we don’t seem to be in a big hurry.

Don't forget NAW.

 

[Jingled]

And I think a block of Indy was partly the motivation… but obviously have to be okay with THT.

THT just makes no sense now that we acquired two additional guards… maybe they didn’t think the Cavs deal would happen… but we currently have:

Mike
Sexton
Ochai
Beasley
JC
THT
JB

Some can play the 3 at times but it’s not like THT has a great route to playing 25 minutes a night and I don’t want him to have the ball in his hands a ton. We obviously make a trade to clear out 1 or 2 of those guys…. But we don’t seem to be in a big hurry.

Yeah, as of right now I don't even think THT would be in the rotation. Maybe we unload Mike and JC before the season starts and open up some minutes, but even then, we still have a lot of other guards, and I don't see him getting much playing time. That trade is the only thing we've done this offseason that I really don't like or understand.

 

[Jazz Fusion]

And I think a block of Indy was partly the motivation… but obviously have to be okay with THT.

THT just makes no sense now that we acquired two additional guards… maybe they didn’t think the Cavs deal would happen… but we currently have:

Mike
Sexton
Ochai
Beasley
JC
THT
JB

Some can play the 3 at times but it’s not like THT has a great route to playing 25 minutes a night and I don’t want him to have the ball in his hands a ton. We obviously make a trade to clear out 1 or 2 of those guys…. But we don’t seem to be in a big hurry.

After summer league, is JB even an option?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

After summer league, is JB even an option?

Yeah... He wasn't good but Summer League is a small sample size. I still think he is an NBA player... though we have enough prospects on this team now that I'm not gonna get mad if he doesn't play.

 

[idiot]

Yep... very likely the FO liked THT much better than people here. But at the same time I want to point out that this doesn't preclude the possibility that we actually ****ed that **** up. Both can be true... we will see in due time.

But there's a good chance, as Cy says, that without having traded for THT earlier, the Lakers-Indy trade would have been completed and Russ (and the two Laker picks) would be completely off the table now. It may effectively not be on the table for us now, so the point may be moot. But in that case it's just a matter of whether you think THT is worth the shot. It hasn't particularly screwed us up.

We were always going to have the dilemma of taking back more contracts than we sent out in the majority of trades (for Bogey, Conley, Clarkson, etc.). The Russ trade was the only clean route to solve that problem a bit. The THT trade probably helped keep the possibility of a Russ trade for us alive longer, but it looks likely that it still won't happen in the end.