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Collin Sexton Stat Deep Dive

More stats. Again, I'm only comparing against DM as a point of reference.

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It looks like Sexton has a ways to go as an isolation player, but is good in transition, and is promising as a PNR ball handler. His Clutch numbers are great, but man did Donovan have a bad year in the clutch last year.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
More stats. Again, I'm only comparing against DM as a point of reference.

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It looks like Sexton has a ways to go as an isolation player, but is good in transition, and is promising as a PNR ball handler. His Clutch numbers are great, but man did Donovan have a bad year in the clutch last year.
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For his role on the team, Donovan has been abysmal in the crunch for his career. 47% I think was his career best in that metric, as you have it there, and that was near the bottom if not the very bottom, of high-usage primary ball-handlers. Terrible decision-making and completely flat performances mostly. Terrible.
 
LogGrad98 said:
For his role on the team, Donovan has been abysmal in the crunch for his career. 47% I think was his career best in that metric, as you have it there, and that was near the bottom if not the very bottom, of high-usage primary ball-handlers. Terrible decision-making and completely flat performances mostly. Terrible.
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Yeah, the numbers are striking. I'm not sure how Quin let it go for so long. It felt like he kept thinking if he gave him more reps it would get better, but the opposite happened as I'm guessing Mitchell's confidence waned.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
More stats. Again, I'm only comparing against DM as a point of reference.

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It looks like Sexton has a ways to go as an isolation player, but is good in transition, and is promising as a PNR ball handler. His Clutch numbers are great, but man did Donovan have a bad year in the clutch last year.
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Its cuz Sexton got that dawg in him.
 
YoungJefe said:
He's essentially a great value Donovan.
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Keep in mind that Don’s numbers are inflated. He played with MUCH better players to inflate his own stats. Rudy really is a great screen and roll man, and the Jazz had a ridiculously good team of shooters.
 
Pinhead said:
Keep in mind that Don’s numbers are inflated. He played with MUCH better players to inflate his own stats. Rudy really is a great screen and roll man, and the Jazz had a ridiculously good team of shooters.
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Meh. I think Donovan is going to be able to score regardless because he's an elite shooter and can get to the rim at will. Mobley could easily be better than Gobert as early as next season and Garland is better than any player that he has played with outside of Rudy,
 
YoungJefe said:
Meh. I think Donovan is going to be able to score regardless because he's an elite shooter and can get to the rim at will. Mobley could easily be better than Gobert as early as next season and Garland is better than any player that he has played with outside of Rudy,
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It will be a feat if Cleveland is ever as good as the Jazz of a couple of years ago.
 
YoungJefe said:
Meh. I think Donovan is going to be able to score regardless because he's an elite shooter and can get to the rim at will. Mobley could easily be better than Gobert as early as next season and Garland is better than any player that he has played with outside of Rudy,
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Flag this exchange and let’s revisit during the All Star game. I genuinely think Mitchell is about to be exposed and the Jazz unloaded him at the perfect time. Those clutch numbers show he doesn’t score at will when it matters.
 
Pinhead said:
Flag this exchange and let’s revisit during the All Star game. I genuinely think Mitchell is about to be exposed and the Jazz unloaded him at the perfect time. Those clutch numbers show he doesn’t score at will when it matters.
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What about his game is going to get exposed?
 
framer said:
It will be a feat if Cleveland is ever as good as the Jazz of a couple of years ago.
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I agree. I just don't think he's going to get exposed as a bad player in Cleveland. Not a huge fan of their roster construction though with two small guards, two centers, and limited size/talent/versatility on the wing.
 
YoungJefe said:
What about his game is going to get exposed?
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Continued bad defense, continued bad clutch performance, continued bad decision making, and the new issue will be the inability to create space as effectively as he did in Utah, which will lead to lower efg%.

As I said, let’s revisit this take and see how right or wrong I was after a few months.
 
Pinhead said:
Continued bad defense, continued bad clutch performance, continued bad decision making, and the new issue will be the inability to create space as effectively as he did in Utah, which will lead to lower efg%.

As I said, let’s revisit this take and see how right or wrong I was after a few months.
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Garland is one of the best playmakers in the league so I think Don will only be asked to score. I think that their spacing could definitely be an issue though.
 
YoungJefe said:
Garland is one of the best playmakers in the league so I think Don will only be asked to score. I think that their spacing could definitely be an issue though.
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What does Don with the ball forced out of his hands at key moments look like? He couldn't coexist with a star that demanded a very minimal amount of touches. Don is food at a lot of things, deferring, however isn't one of them. He doesn't see himself as a second or third best player on a team.
 
framer said:
What does Don with the ball forced out of his hands at key moments look like? He couldn't coexist with a star that demanded a very minimal amount of touches. Don is food at a lot of things, deferring, however isn't one of them. He doesn't see himself as a second or third best player on a team.
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That will definitely be something to monitor since Garland is one of the most ball dominant players in the league and Donovan has always be the main guy on the ball throughout his career. I think it can work though because they'll only have two creators on the floor with their starting 5 and I'd guess that they're going to stagger their minutes a lot as well.

I don't really think that Don/Rudy's beef was about touches or shine. FWIW it seems like Rudy is a peculiar guy that a lot of guys didn't really get along with in the locker room. And I think their beef was more so due to the covid situation and the fact that their personalities didn't really mesh off the court. It also doesn't help that most players around the league don't really seem to respect Rudy's game or impact that much but it's mainly because he's not a very flashy player.
 
YoungJefe said:
Meh. I think Donovan is going to be able to score regardless because he's an elite shooter and can get to the rim at will. Mobley could easily be better than Gobert as early as next season and Garland is better than any player that he has played with outside of Rudy,
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Eh, he's not an elite shooter, he is a good shooter for a chucker, but not elite. Without someone to facilitate like Gobert he will struggle a bit until he adjusts, but he is an elite scorer so he will figure it out. My bet is he dips just a bit in total production and efficiency this next year and then the year after picks it back up again. Wouldn't be surprised to see him at 24 ppg with about 43% fg and 34% 3pt this next season as he figures it out with a new squad and without the most elite screen setting big the league has ever seen helping him out, and the gravity Gobert had at the rim that caused players to protect the lob, even when the lob wasn't coming. There are a lot of little nuances that drove his game higher on this squad that he won't have right off the bat, we were after all a pretty elite offensive team for the last 3-4 seasons, and it will take some adjustment.
 
I think Don and Garland will become my turn your turn type of stuff. Wade and Bron had some issues with that in Miami at times and James is an amazing passer and Wade is definitely better than Don. I think it will “work” but I’m not sure it builds something with an amazing ceiling.

I won’t be rooting for failure here btw. I hope Don does well and I hope we cheer both guys when they come through. No need to be petty assholes. We can be the divorced parents that stay friends and make it work. Just didn’t work out for us here… now time to move on.
 
First post on here.
A lot of fans in Cleveland, did not care for the direction of the franchise in Lebron's last season before heading to LAL. They took it out on Sexton who had to overcome the adversity of disgruntled vets, not interested in rebuilding after the finals runs,followed by season after season of starters just as raw or more than Sexton was at first.
He was not so much the tank commander as Garland was. Sexton was more or less playing on his own on a team full of misfits. Numerous coaching changes didn't help either. His injury and their success without him, ruined his value in Cleveland and so they gave Utah a player almost the same as the one they got.
 
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