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Handlogten's Heros said:
I agree but Poeltl and Richardson would make them much better than Russ... so you sell it as a basketball move that creates "flexibility".

I'm just saying there are other potential teams out there... I think we are the best match... but they also might elect to keep Russ and the picks (it seems nuts but maybe they dumb enough to do it).

I don't want to make the same mistake Knicks fans made.
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Sure. If it’s for one pick maybe that’s better than what we’ll send and ask for.

But ain’t no way that team is even a pretender. I wouldn’t burn a pick for that.

Last thing: the difference between the situations is that the Jazz wouldn’t be low-balling the Lakers. It can be a simple ‘what I got for what you got’ trade. The other thing is this is post Danny nuking the Knicks by saying “I meant what I said.”

This is probably all a debate on the margins: protected AT ALL vs not, Vando, **** like that. Would be an incredible loss of value for all parties to be miserly.
 
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NUMBERICA said:
Or that they don’t want salary on the books the next year, or that their particular package isn’t worth 2 firsts (it isn’t). Or that the Pacers just gave up too soon and created an even stronger position for the Jazz.
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The Pacers have the best available package.

It could be the salary thing, but it still means the same thing: two picks from the Lakers is not happening.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I agree but Poeltl and Richardson would make them much better than Russ... so you sell it as a basketball move that creates "flexibility".

I'm just saying there are other potential teams out there... I think we are the best match... but they also might elect to keep Russ and the picks (it seems nuts but maybe they dumb enough to do it).

I don't want to make the same mistake Knicks fans made.
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And McDermott/Collins.

If Collins is healthy he is pretty good.

McDermott would fit well as a shooter. He is on the books next year though, so maybe not what the Lakers want.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Sure. If it’s for one pick maybe that’s better than what we’ll send and ask for.

But ain’t no way that team is even a pretender. I wouldn’t burn a pick for that.
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I don’t think they can honestly build a contender right now. Poeltl is one of the most underrated guys in the league so he’d make a big difference for them.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The Pacers have the best available package.

It could be the salary thing, but it still means the same thing: two picks from the Lakers is not happening.
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The Pacers are out and I’m not sure how much they were really in. And no, Hield’s money is not better than getting off all the money and getting depth too. Beasley’s probably as good or better, too.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Don’t really see a viable deal with Vando unless the Lakers are willing to take on extra salary.
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I don't see us giving up a young prospect on a multi-year contract. Lakers are in win now mode. They want vets and expiring contracts. We want young prospects on long, reasonable contracts. Sure, the Lakers SHOULD want a guy like Vando, but there is no incentive for the Jazz to get rid of players just like him.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
I don't see us giving up a young prospect on a multi-year contract. Lakers are in win now mode. They want vets and expiring contracts. We want young prospects on long, reasonable contracts. Sure, the Lakers SHOULD want a guy like Vando, but there is no incentive for the Jazz to get rid of players just like him.
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If Vando is the player that closes the deal Danny will help him pack his stuff.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
I don't see us giving up a young prospect on a multi-year contract. Lakers are in win now mode. They want vets and expiring contracts. We want young prospects on long, reasonable contracts. Sure, the Lakers SHOULD want a guy like Vando, but there is no incentive for the Jazz to get rid of players just like him.
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The incentive is the extra pick... and they absolutely would want him. They are about to start Thomas Bryant who is coming off an ACL tear a year or so ago.

I think both teams would want to keep him... so he may end up staying. If they aren't doing both picks then Vando stays for sure.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
I don't see us giving up a young prospect on a multi-year contract. Lakers are in win now mode. They want vets and expiring contracts. We want young prospects on long, reasonable contracts. Sure, the Lakers SHOULD want a guy like Vando, but there is no incentive for the Jazz to get rid of players just like him.
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Multi? As in two? The two years we’re probably tanking and we won’t have restricted free agency rights?

Draft capital is wonderful incentive to trade a guy that isn’t on the timeline.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The incentive is the extra pick... and they absolutely would want him. They are about to start Thomas Bryant who is coming off an ACL tear a year or so ago.

I think both teams would want to keep him... so he may end up staying. If they aren't doing both picks then Vando stays for sure.
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It's shocking to me they havent signed Whiteside. He must have been awful in the locker room last year for the Jazz.
 
NUMBERICA said:
They can easily offload him into space or a TPE. Or work him into a sign and trade for whoever (probably the better plan anyway).
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They should honestly want salary for next year if it is attached to decent players or expiring. It will be easier to do a sign and trade for Ky than an outright FA signing. Same with almost any other FA. Pat Riley sits in his office and laughs at these assholes thinking they need actual cap space to sign FAs.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It's shocking to me they havent signed Whiteside. He must have been awful in the locker room last year for the Jazz.
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I don't know... I think he is similar to Dwight with his nonsense and they aren't desperate enough. If he is still a FA that might be a midseason pickup.
 
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