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Game Thread Nov 02, 2022 06:30PM MT: Jazz at Mavericks

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Conestoga Finn said:
Not too familiar yet with players to comment too deeply, but what is clear, Lauri's 3-pointers are atypically off. 0-4 tonight, and it looked like he himself surrendered to that fact too when he had few chances more to try, instead trying to do something else. Furthermore, he spend too much time passively in a corner during offenses, when situation could've warranted more active plays.
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Yeah his energy level looked a bit spent tonight. Dallas nightlife maybe????
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Right… it’s not just free throws… it’s calling Lauri for a weird offensive foul when absolutely nothing happened… calling JC for carry with 5 minutes left. Vando and Lauri were taking tons of contact at the rim but they didn’t flip to the ground and yell real loud so no call. Defensive three seconds in the fourth when Dallas sat in a zone for like half the game.

It wasn’t on the refs but the whistle we got tonight was real rough.

Saw some article about gambling and the Jazz today… mentioned Dallas as the worst matchup for how we play… pretty encouraged with the result if it’s true.
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Definitely. Lots of fans say ref stuff after a loss. It can be true sometimes too.
 
Conestoga Finn said:
Not too familiar yet with players to comment too deeply, but what is clear, Lauri's 3-pointers are atypically off. 0-4 tonight, and it looked like he himself surrendered to that fact too when he had few chances more to try, instead trying to do something else. Furthermore, he spend too much time passively in a corner during offenses, when situation could've warranted more active plays.
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Even if his 3 has been off I was surprised to see him inbounding the ball on the last play. I would have preferred him take it vs Clarkson trying to shoot over Kleber. Oh well good fight till the end. If Conley's toe isnt on the line we are going for 2 to send it to OT it instead of 3. Just a tough break.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I mean, nothing about my posting style or overarching basketball philosophy that fuels my post has changed yet you went from liking everything I said to constantly disliking.

You were clearly doing it just to get a rise out of Lopo because he thought you were my alt.
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You’re giving me too much credit. Actually, I agreed with you on Gobert and Don during that time. I disagree with you on a lot of stuff in the new regime. Also, you come off as a smug know-it-all and the majority of your posts are negative. That will get you a downvote. It is what it is.
 
I don't expect much from this Jazz team this year or the next. It was a good game, win or lose. Well fought but ended up short while playing an away game.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I mean, nothing about my posting style or overarching basketball philosophy that fuels my post has changed yet you went from liking everything I said to constantly disliking.

You were clearly doing it just to get a rise out of Lopo because he thought you were my alt.
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When you were ******** on Lopo he probably approved because Lopo was off the rails there at the end. Not his fault you took that as a blanket endorsement of everything you post. kcgar has downvoted me plenty of times and upvoted me plenty of times. There were times it caught me off-guard when they downvoted me but I've come to the conclusion they are just honest about not liking posts in the form of a downvote and they are not picking sides in the site drama.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Right… it’s not just free throws… it’s calling Lauri for a weird offensive foul when absolutely nothing happened… calling JC for carry with 5 minutes left. Vando and Lauri were taking tons of contact at the rim but they didn’t flip to the ground and yell real loud so no call. Defensive three seconds in the fourth when Dallas sat in a zone for like half the game.

It wasn’t on the refs but the whistle we got tonight was real rough.

Saw some article about gambling and the Jazz today… mentioned Dallas as the worst matchup for how we play… pretty encouraged with the result if it’s true.
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He did carry though. He actually carried twice and they didnt call it until the 2nd (more obvious) time. I know carry is one of those calls where you can argue that it could be called a lot more, so it can be viewed as a very BS selective call, but Clarkson pretty blatantly went under the ball on his 2nd hesi move and got called for it.

Vando is never going to get the benefit of the whistle when attacking on ball. And he really shouldn't. He's usually out of control and just leading his elbow trying to create contact without any actual threat of scoring.

Watching the replay of the Lauri call, those do annoy me. But on the replay it does look like he held the defender's arm down to prevent him from tipping the entry pass. Really is a lame call though.
 
Gameface said:
When you were ******** on Lopo he probably approved because Lopo was off the rails there at the end. Not his fault you took that as a blanket endorsement of everything you post. kcgar has downvoted me plenty of times and upvoted me plenty of times. There were times it caught me off-guard when they downvoted me but I've come to the conclusion they are just honest about not liking posts in the form of a downvote and they are not picking sides in the site drama.
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What happened to Lopo?
 
Release the Kraken said:
It will have to be gentleman’s I guess cause I don’t share personal information with internet strangers. But it’s public and the shame factor will be real!!!:p
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Fine by me… just remind me to adequately shame you for the dumb bet you made… cuz I likely forget.
 
Conestoga Finn said:
Not too familiar yet with players to comment too deeply, but what is clear, Lauri's 3-pointers are atypically off. 0-4 tonight, and it looked like he himself surrendered to that fact too when he had few chances more to try, instead trying to do something else. Furthermore, he spend too much time passively in a corner during offenses, when situation could've warranted more active plays.
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Completely agree. I feel like Lauri is definitely skilled enough to be a star, but I'm just not sure he has the right mentality to be one. Not aggressive enough offensively. He should be leading the team in field goal attempts pretty much every night.
 
Jingled said:
Completely agree. I feel like Lauri is skilled enough to be a star, but I'm just not sure he has the right mentality to be one. Not aggressive enough offensively. He should be leading the team in field goal attempts pretty much every night.
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Hard to do when you play Sexton 31 minutes.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
He did carry though. He actually carried twice and they didnt call it until the 2nd (more obvious) time. I know carry is one of those calls where you can argue that it could be called a lot more, so it can be viewed as a very BS selective call, but Clarkson pretty blatantly went under the ball on his 2nd hesi move and got called for it.

Vando is never going to get the benefit of the whistle when attacking on ball. And he really shouldn't. He's usually out of control and just leading his elbow trying to create contact without any actual threat of scoring.

Watching the replay of the Lauri call, those do annoy me. But on the replay it does look like he held the defender's arm down to prevent him from tipping the entry pass. Really is a lame call though.
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Cool story… I actually think guys that play hard and don’t fall down for no damn reason should get the benefit of the doubt. T wasn’t just those calls though… sexton had Luka draped across him and horse collared hiM on a drive after he got one of his BS touch fouls. I felt it was uneven and was definitely a factor.
 
All our guys played hard. That's all you can really ask.

Luka is a one man wrecking crew. I think we actually kept him under his scoring average this season. Nobody can stop him. They had Wood step up today and that was probably the difference in the game.

Jazz don't have big wings so Hardy went with the 3 guards. There was alot of havoc out there but they almost pulled it out at the end.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Hard to do when you play Sexton 31 minutes.
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Holy **** man… sexton was bad for
Most of the night but he didn’t make Lauri miss 4 threes… he actually set Lauri up really nicely at least once.

Lauri is like Hayward in some ways… he scores in the flow of the offense… the zone disrupted his flow as much as anyone on the team.

Not everything is Sextons fault… maybe we could look at box plus minus to find a weak link… maybe we could look at the season on/off splits and find a weak link… you want to go look it up… maybe if you discover it yourself you can believe it… like Kyrie doing his own research on YouTube.
 
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