We are already seeing him regress back to the mean the last 6 game and it will continue as the season goes on. I would eventually expect him to settle in around the 40-45% percent range from 3.
What upgrades are needed to make us a contender?
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He’s never played in a system like ours before he’s getting WIDE open looks. I bet he’s in the mid to high 40’s end of the year.
Step-Back Hook
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If this keeps going on, i do not want to see big moves. It is too soon. If this roster can get into post-season it well deserves to make it on their own. If we see even one post-season win where the young ones in Lauri, Vando, Collin, Walker, has a big role to deliver it, we get much wiser . I could add depth a bit this season, but not gunning for a superstar trades. We would have to give up too much for a project thats not ready for it. So at most, get some glue guys and shooters for the depth but no big moves.
Hes one of those players who only wants to take wide open looks. He's definitely more of a mid to high 30s shooter.
Coach Ellis
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This ^
As much as I love THT’s antics, he’s clearly the most expendable player that has any potential value (and upside) on this team. Flip him, Rudy Gay and a protected pick into another wing and you might have something special.
I might lean towards Beasley if the right deal came up, but I would be hard pressed to move any of Conley, Olynyk or Sexton at present.
Definitely not Lauri, Vando or Clarkson. That ship has passed. Gotta focus the rebuild around them and maximize their skill sets.
Could we get Haliburton? We need a big PG going forward. I think Sexton is a solid scorer and seems great at a 6th man. But he isn't going to be the passer we need. Haliburton could play next to him. Not sure they are willing to trade him but they arent winning any time soon and maybe picks could change their mind. They really stole him away though.
HermanG
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If we make a trade, it has to be for a teamplayer. Not one of those iso-clowns. I want us to build similar what the Bucks have.
I would love to see a good 3pt shooter added who is a decent perimeter defender and is also willing to come off the bench (so smaller ego). Just so we could score more consistently while resting stsrters and add firepower to a small ball lineup when running it makes sense.
I would love to see a good 3pt shooter added who is a decent perimeter defender and is also willing to come off the bench (so smaller ego). Just so we could score more consistently while resting stsrters and add firepower to a small ball lineup when running it makes sense.
Coach Ellis
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Assuming we stay status quo and keep:
Lauri Markkanen
Collin Sexton
Jarred Vanderbilt (extension if possible)
Jordan Clarkson (extension vs free agency)
Kelly Olynyk
Mike Conley
Malik Beasley (exercise team option)
THT (picks up player option)
Simone Fontecchio
Walker Kessler
Ochai Agbaji
But move completely on from
Udoka Azibuike
NAW
Leandro Bolmaro
Rudy Gay (buyout after he picks up option)
How much cap space does this team have this next offseason? Is there a way to use that to create an opportunity to gain an asset somewhere?
I think Trader Dan is always on the lookout for a deal that makes us better. . . but I could also see him letting these next two seasons play out, making a small deal here or there and then letting Conley, Beasley and THT’s contracts expire - opening up around $60 million in cap space in 2024.
Lauri Markkanen
Collin Sexton
Jarred Vanderbilt (extension if possible)
Jordan Clarkson (extension vs free agency)
Kelly Olynyk
Mike Conley
Malik Beasley (exercise team option)
THT (picks up player option)
Simone Fontecchio
Walker Kessler
Ochai Agbaji
But move completely on from
Udoka Azibuike
NAW
Leandro Bolmaro
Rudy Gay (buyout after he picks up option)
How much cap space does this team have this next offseason? Is there a way to use that to create an opportunity to gain an asset somewhere?
I think Trader Dan is always on the lookout for a deal that makes us better. . . but I could also see him letting these next two seasons play out, making a small deal here or there and then letting Conley, Beasley and THT’s contracts expire - opening up around $60 million in cap space in 2024.
Conestoga Finn
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What ever, but one bad trade can destroy and dispel everything good, beautiful, and in longer run, constructive, proactive, progressive, nice, neat, and beloved. No, no haste.
Jazz do not need any big ego-star, blackholing entire system
Jazz do not need any trade for sake of trade for the system
Jazz have benchful of players who are eager to challenge everything, for the system
Jazz have pipeline of guys who would do almost everything to get an opportunity to warm a bench of the system
Jazz have a legion of future hopes who are currently watching, and hoping they would get picked by the system
Dammit. GM must be total fool if he even consider any schemes right now. He can see what we can see, and much more, but...
He must also understand that he is successful in his job when he doesn't have to do anything. Absolutely nothing. Nil. Zero.
Jazz do not need any big ego-star, blackholing entire system
Jazz do not need any trade for sake of trade for the system
Jazz have benchful of players who are eager to challenge everything, for the system
Jazz have pipeline of guys who would do almost everything to get an opportunity to warm a bench of the system
Jazz have a legion of future hopes who are currently watching, and hoping they would get picked by the system
Dammit. GM must be total fool if he even consider any schemes right now. He can see what we can see, and much more, but...
He must also understand that he is successful in his job when he doesn't have to do anything. Absolutely nothing. Nil. Zero.
Coach Ellis
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I love this current team’s construction and play, but they got to this point by trading away 4/5 starters for last year and almost every single player on the roster has raised his trade value at this point.
I think you absolutely keep Lauri Markkanen, Jordan Clarkson (via extension), Jarred Vanderbilt (via extension if possible), Collin Sexton, Kelly Olynyk (at least 1 more year), Walker Kessler (rookie contract) and Ochai Agbaji (rookie contract).
Conley, Beasley, THT and NAW should all be on the trade block, but I wouldn’t sell low on any of them. I’d be looking to make upgrades that make sense for this team. Try to get a big guard (SGA) or a wing (Jaylen Brown) type of player that will fit the timeline Vic and culture DA and Will Hardy are building.
Basketball is a star driven sport. If you can get one, you should go after it. I’d be hesitant to trade any unprotected picks at this point. If there’s a lottery pick to be cashed - I want the Jazz holding it.
mongoose01
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It’d be nice to get another big athletic defensive wing. It’d also be nice to get rid of gay or flip Dok or bolmaro for a second round pick or two or another end of bench prospect. I know ainge wont hesitate to pull the trigger on anything though so I’ve got an open mind. Everything he’s done so far is amazing- even potter has looked pretty good!
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jom2003
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Nah, ship has sailed on this Hali. But we can draft one ourselves. Cason Wallace is the one prospect I like and his game is modeled after Jrue
Engorged On Unborn Gore
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This team is well balanced, but it can absolutely use upgrades at the 1, 2, and 3.
If you can get an above average starter or star that will pass the ball at any of those positions, you do it.
If you can get an above average starter or star that will pass the ball at any of those positions, you do it.
HeatCheck
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I'd love to have Keldon or Haliburton but there's no way the Spurs/Pacers are going to trade 23 year old kids that should be the future of their team for the next decade. They are not stupid like the Kings.
Already mentioned him but OG Anunoby should be a target. He's the same age as Lauri and another player who can potentially break out in a big way but the Raptors just have too many other guys his size including Scottie Barnes who also need a ton of minutes. OG is 6'-7" who is an underrated passer, shooter, plays incredible defense, gets steals and rebounds. Siakam was supposedly on the trade block last season but he's playing way too well for them now.
I'm probably the only one who would be fine if they eventually went after Simmons in the offseason if he's amenable to playing in Utah. He needs a fresh start not under the microscope like in Brooklyn/Philly. He's probably a 1-2 year project considering his injury/confidence issues but I'd let him simmer in the stew with Kessler, Sexton, Agbaji and see if he develops into a long term piece. No big loss if he busts as long as they don't give up any valuable assets for him and are able to maybe dump a few contracts like Gay/THT. At worst he could be a huge expiring in '24-'25 season.
Engorged On Unborn Gore
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Also: At worst, he could destroy the locker room and drag the team down with his gargantuan personality disorders.
I saw a Suns fan looking for a 3rd team in a potential KD deal and I kinda liked jumping in there.
Basics:
PHX In: KD
PHX Out: Bridges/Crowder/filler/bunch of picks
BRK In: Beasley/Crowder/filler/ton of picks
BRK Out: KD
Utah In: Bridges
Utah Out: Beasley/filler/a couple of picks
Basics:
PHX In: KD
PHX Out: Bridges/Crowder/filler/bunch of picks
BRK In: Beasley/Crowder/filler/ton of picks
BRK Out: KD
Utah In: Bridges
Utah Out: Beasley/filler/a couple of picks