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I need to watch more of GG but these highlights are doing nothing for me. Doesn't seem like a + athlete at all.

He's a good athlete like, say, a young Jeff Green. He's more athletic than Siakam--more vertically explosive and quicker hands. He's athletic enough to be a complete player and potentially a #1 option. Ideally, he grows another inch to a bonafide 6'9".
 
Watching Creighton - Baylor Scheierman could be an interesting end of first, early second round pick. a young joe ingles type. left handed shooting stroke, excellent passer, etc. a do it all type guy with range and playmaking. jon konchar is another guy he reminds me of out of a mid-major.
I like him to, but he is closer to undrafted than he is 1st round. He's probably the prospect type that will need a handful of years either in the G-League or overseas before he can be a NBA player.
 
He's a good athlete like, say, a young Jeff Green. He's more athletic than Siakam--more vertically explosive and quicker hands. He's athletic enough to be a complete player and potentially a #1 option. Ideally, he grows another inch to a bonafide 6'9".
He's more athletic than Siakam from your eye test? Truly not being condescending, just want to clarify
 
He's more athletic than Siakam from your eye test? Truly not being condescending, just want to clarify

Yeah, more vertically explosive and quicker hands. GG has a quick first and second jump and gets above the rim easily. GG does have a narrow waist and high center of gravity, which hurt his lateral quickness. He ends up trailing the play defensively too often. Siakam has more length and is a better defender right now.

GG isn't an otherworldly athlete, but his athleticism isn't going to hold him back. It would be similar to a player like Jayson Tatum, who has enough athleticism to be a solid triple-threat and two-way player.
 
Yeah, more vertically explosive and quicker hands. GG has a quick first and second jump and gets above the rim easily. GG does have a narrow waist and high center of gravity, which hurt his lateral quickness. He ends up trailing the play defensively too often. Siakam has more length and is a better defender right now.

GG isn't an otherworldly athlete, but his athleticism isn't going to hold him back. It would be similar to a player like Jayson Tatum, who has enough athleticism to be a solid triple-threat and two-way player.
Jeez and you just do this part time on the internet.

Thanks for the insight
 
If everything goes wonderfully well for Miller, I could see him possibly developing into a player similar to Brandon Ingram. I think that might be his role model and probably his best-case scenario. He does have an issue with the way he uses his body to support his jump shot that will limit his ability to shoot off the dribble or shoot off of movement. (See old school Danny Manning.) If he can smooth that out it will make him a more versatile shooter. It looks like he'll probably guard 3s and 4s, and maybe switch a little.

I still think he's a floor-spacing shooting wing. I'm not sure he gets picked ahead of Cam Whitmore or Keyonte George when it's said and done, but he's looking like top-10 range imo.

View: https://twitter.com/KevinOConnorNBA/status/1594787764519587840


You are high out of your mind.
 


Where does ESPN have him? I don't have ESPN+ right now. Again, I think once guys like Smith, Whitmore and Whitehead have a chance to get some traction, Miller will be in that draft range. Maybe it's 6-8. I can't say Miller is a clear top-5 guy for me.

He's a nice player, but I think he's the off-ball, secondary scorer who plays off someone else. He might be really good at it. Think like a bigger version of Khris Middleton.
 
Where does ESPN have him? I don't have ESPN+ right now. Again, I think once guys like Smith, Whitmore and Whitehead have a chance to get some traction, Miller will be in that draft range. Maybe it's 6-8. I can't say Miller is a clear top-5 guy for me.

He's a nice player, but I think he's the off-ball, secondary scorer who plays off someone else. He might be really good at it. Think like a bigger version of Khris Middleton.
I think you have a bad habit of relying on player comps too much.
 
I think you have a bad habit of relying on player comps too much.

I'm trying to project the role and impact I think the player can have, and yeah, I rely heavily on existing players as a point of reference. I'll put it this way -- I don't think Miller can run a team, or beat good defenders off the dribble, or create good looks for himself in isolation, or put much pressure on the rim. Maybe I'm harping on what Miller hasn't shown he can do rather than what he has shown he can do. Dude can obviously shoot it.

Jazz need a guy who they can run their offense through. I don't think Miller is that guy. That said, he's still a top-10 pick.
 
I'm trying to project the role and impact I think the player can have, and yeah, I rely heavily on existing players as a point of reference. I'll put it this way -- I don't think Miller can run a team, or beat good defenders off the dribble, or create good looks for himself in isolation, or put much pressure on the rim. Maybe I'm harping on what Miller hasn't shown he can do rather than what he has shown he can do. Dude can obviously shoot it.

Jazz need a guy who they can run their offense through. I don't think Miller is that guy. That said, he's still a top-10 pick.
He's the entire package. He has top 10 player in the league potential. Not saying he will get there, but that's his ceiling.
 
He's the entire package. He has top 10 player in the league potential. Not saying he will get there, but that's his ceiling.

I don't think he's shown that diverse a skillset, and I'm obviously not as high on him as you are. Here's another comp I'd come up with in terms of role and impact -- how about a guy like Mike Miller. I think even that is giving Brandon Miller some benefit of the doubt, especially in terms of athleticism and being able to play off the dribble.


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I don't think he's shown that diverse a skillset, and I'm obviously not as high on him as you are. Here's another comp I'd come up with in terms of role and impact -- how about a guy like Mike Miller. I think even that is giving Brandon Miller some benefit of the doubt, especially in terms of athleticism and being able to play off the dribble.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD_eTlftITA

I dont do player comps. They are bad.

He's a 6'9 do it all versatile player and athlete who is also a shooter. His work ethic and the team he lands on will determine how far he takes his talent level.
 
Where does ESPN have him? I don't have ESPN+ right now. Again, I think once guys like Smith, Whitmore and Whitehead have a chance to get some traction, Miller will be in that draft range. Maybe it's 6-8. I can't say Miller is a clear top-5 guy for me.

He's a nice player, but I think he's the off-ball, secondary scorer who plays off someone else. He might be really good at it. Think like a bigger version of Khris Middleton.
i disagree there. i see him more as a haliburton type - not that prolific of a playmaker, but in that mold. he's come out early season as more of a shooter/scorer, but he's a much better playmaker/passer/lead ballhandler than he's shown so far - and perhaps than he will get a chance to show in his one season at bama. but he's a legit lead forward type and can play that role in the league.

hell, from what i'd seen of him in HS, i wasn't expecting much as a shooter/scorer. i saw a ballhandler, playmaker, rebounder and anything he could do as a shooter/scorer would be gravy. definitely not a mike miller type in my eyes coming out of HS. And don't get me wrong, i'm not saying you're wrong, rather just calling it like i've seen it.
 
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i disagree there. i see him more as a haliburton type - not that prolific of a playmaker, but in that mold. he's come out early season as more of a shooter/scorer, but he's a much better playmaker/passer/lead ballhandler than he's shown so far - and perhaps than he will get a chance to show in his one season at bama. but he's a legit lead forward type and can play that role in the league.

hell, from what i'd seen of him in HS, i wasn't expecting much as a shooter/scorer. i saw a ballhandler, playmaker, rebounder and anything he could do as a shooter/scorer would be gravy. definitely not a mike miller type in my eyes coming out of HS. And don't get me wrong, i'm not saying you're wrong, rather just calling it like i've seen it.

From what I saw of Miller in HS (admittedly not very much), Miller was a skinny (180-lb) kid who tended to float around the perimeter and live on jump shots. He barely got to the rim, barely drew fouls, and barely tried to take guys off the dribble. He reminded me a bit of Ziaire Williams (Stanford). As he matures and adds strength, more of his game will emerge. I just can't see him as a lead point-forward or on-ball guy yet. I'm not sure he'll hold his ground against NBA wing defenders.

The shooting so far is a nice surprise though.
 
Another strong showing by Anthony Black. That's two straight games putting up 26 points and 6 assists against solid teams. Shooting splits are leveling out at 50/38/80. Big guard who can be a triple threat with the ball.
 
Another strong showing by Anthony Black. That's two straight games putting up 26 points and 6 assists against solid teams. Shooting splits are leveling out at 50/38/80. Big guard who can be a triple threat with the ball.
He is a beast. If he continues this level of play he is likely a top 5 pick.
 
Another strong showing by Anthony Black. That's two straight games putting up 26 points and 6 assists against solid teams. Shooting splits are leveling out at 50/38/80. Big guard who can be a triple threat with the ball.
Good to see..
I was pretty high on this kid before the season. He started a bit slow but seems to be coming on strong the past few games. I'd love to see a big 6'-7" playmaker type added to the Jazz.

If he keeps playing this way we won't have the chance to draft him though.
 
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