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The Jazz's Next 20 Games -- Jazz go 10-10

How many wins will the Jazz have in their next 20 games?

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Three things I'm not a huge fan of right now:

1. Playing Vando as the screener in high pick and rolls so much. He's too small to function as an effective roll man against true bigs, and way too much of a non-shooter to pop. After the screen, he's just kinda... there, and he negates the spacing offered by Lauri and KO. Can't do anything against a drop coverage. Bottom line is, IMO Vando got a bit overrated when the whole team was in the zone. I know we're lacking options on the wing when it comes to the starting lineup, but I'd like to see what Beasley can do as an undersized, spot up shooting 3 with that group. Vanderbilt isn't working on either side of the ball right now.

2. Leaving Markknen to fend for himself against physical, borderline dirty dudes like Philly's PJ Tucker who attach themselves to him. Look, I wrote a while back that it was smart strategy by Hardy not to run Lauri off predictable screens to get him open, but that was when the rest of the team was humming and you could afford to have Markkanen just wait for his opportunities while spacing the floor. As things are now, he's being taken out of games because teams are gladly sacrificing defenders to overplay him in all situations. I want to see these dudes run straight into a couple of bone-crushing screens per game, just to remind them that there's a price you pay for guarding someone that close in the NBA. That's it. I don't even care if Lauri gets the ball or not on those plays, I just want to see someone hit the floor. Sometimes you send a message.

3. Our pick and roll defense. Really not great right now, and that's putting it nicely. The lineups featuring Sexton are particularly unwatchable in this regard. We're offering absolutely no resistance at the point of attack - it's one screen and we're scrambling and overhelping. It's amazing how many points teams are scoring against us with easy, wide open midrange jumpers by ballhandlers who just used a screen. It's ridiculous, you can't just concede those shots in the NBA.
 
This is probably some very weird small sample size stuff, but our defensive rating is 102 (****ing elite) when Vanderbilt is sitting and a 123 (god awful) when he is playing.

That's 1 point better than the best defense when he sits, and 5 points worse than the worse defense when he plays.

I do think some of this might be very real though. JV is a good off-ball defender and makes some plays, but he's absolutely awful defending in isolation vs star types. He's in the 4th percentile (bad) in isolation defense according to NBA.com. Dude gets absolutely lit up.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
This is probably some very weird small sample size stuff, but our defensive rating is 102 (****ing elite) when Vanderbilt is sitting and a 123 (god awful) when he is playing.

That's 1 point better than the best defense when he sits, and 5 points worse than the worse defense when he plays.

I do think some of this might be very real though. JV is a good off-ball defender and makes some plays, but he's absolutely awful defending in isolation vs star types. He's in the 4th percentile (bad) in isolation defense according to NBA.com. Dude gets absolutely lit up.
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I was excited about Vando, and his energy and rebounding have been as advertised, but if you watch him closely on defense, he's not good. He's not disciplined enough to be a good man defender and he causes some chaos, but doesn't really play good team defense either.

I'm still being super patient with everyone right now, so hopefully we see some improvement throughout the year.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
This is probably some very weird small sample size stuff, but our defensive rating is 102 (****ing elite) when Vanderbilt is sitting and a 123 (god awful) when he is playing.

That's 1 point better than the best defense when he sits, and 5 points worse than the worse defense when he plays.

I do think some of this might be very real though. JV is a good off-ball defender and makes some plays, but he's absolutely awful defending in isolation vs star types. He's in the 4th percentile (bad) in isolation defense according to NBA.com. Dude gets absolutely lit up.
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Could also be the impact of Kessler.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I was excited about Vando, and his energy and rebounding have been as advertised, but if you watch him closely on defense, he's not good. He's not disciplined enough to be a good man defender and he causes some chaos, but doesn't really play good team defense either.

I'm still being super patient with everyone right now, so hopefully we see some improvement throughout the year.
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That's exactly the point. He seems to have low IQ when it come to defense, look like a crazy dog sometines....
 
Next 2 games are the real test for me.

1/ We play at home after finally some rest .
2/ We play Knicks average team, Must win
3/ We play the Suns, best team for me with Denver at West.

Will be interesting what come out from this 2 games...
 
NYK's length caused the Jazz some problems. RJ + Cam + Randle put size on the perimeter, and they were able to pack in and stifle some of the Jazz's ball movement. Jazz would get in the lane, but have nowhere to go with their passes, leading to turnovers. Jazz's guards are still pretty small, and their wings don't create.

Jazz need guards and wings with more size/length and more on-ball creation. I'd love to come out of this draft with one of the Thompsons.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
NYK's length caused the Jazz some problems. RJ + Cam + Randle put size on the perimeter, and they were able to pack in and stifle some of the Jazz's ball movement. Jazz would get in the lane, but have nowhere to go with their passes, leading to turnovers. Jazz's guards are still pretty small, and their wings don't create.

Jazz need guards and wings with more size/length and more on-ball creation. I'd love to come out of this draft with one of the Thompsons.
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We need the good twin though.

Has there ever been a twin combo with both players coming in to the league and are stars? It feels like there is always one of the twins that plays well and the other is a career journeyman.
 
I just looked to see how/when other teams would catch up to us on games played (several have played 4 less than us), and we have a few 2 and 3 day breaks but not till January for the most part.

Unreal the schedule this team got.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
NYK's length caused the Jazz some problems. RJ + Cam + Randle put size on the perimeter, and they were able to pack in and stifle some of the Jazz's ball movement. Jazz would get in the lane, but have nowhere to go with their passes, leading to turnovers. Jazz's guards are still pretty small, and their wings don't create.

Jazz need guards and wings with more size/length and more on-ball creation. I'd love to come out of this draft with one of the Thompsons.
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Why not all 3 Thompson Twins? We have 3 picks.1669169545030.jpeg
 
hgb said:
Did just beat Nuggets in Denver, though. Also, Bogey is bound to go off for 11/13 from 3 with ~40 points.
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They beat Nuggets 53-22 in bench points. Both teams were horrible from 3 (DET 28.6, DEN 26.3). Detroit did close out the game well after Denver got in striking distance though.
 
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