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Elizah Huge

Elizah Huge

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Sexton is headed back to the bench with the news today that Conley was a full participant in practice.

His stats through 9 games as a starter this season:

17.1 PPG (55.4FG%), 5.1 APG, 2.2 RPG
46 assists to 21 turnovers
56/101 from the field
9/23 from 3 (39.1 3PT%)
33/37 from FT (89.2 FT%)
+19 overall

I have been super impressed with his efficiency. 17.1 PPG on 11.2 shots per game with an insane 55.4FG% is extremely good. He also has averaged a 2.2 AST/TO ratio per game while also shooting it well from 3.

His development this year has been awesome and I am looking forward to watching him grow even more this season.
 
I was just looking his stats when I saw this post about it. I hope the one of him or JC will be out there closing games depending of which one is hot. Colllin deserves to close games as much as JC if he earns it. For the overall culture and atmosphere I do not think starting him over JC would be correct move at this point. But the ending games has to be wide open and based on performance.
 
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Elizah Huge said:
Sexton is headed back to the bench with the news today that Conley was a full participant in practice.

His stats through 9 games as a starter this season:

17.1 PPG (55.4FG%), 5.1 APG, 2.2 RPG
46 assists to 21 turnovers
56/101 from the field
9/23 from 3 (39.1 3PT%)
33/37 from FT (89.2 FT%)
+19 overall

I have been super impressed with his efficiency. 17.1 PPG on 11.2 shots per game with an insane 55.4FG% is extremely good. He also has averaged a 2.2 AST/TO ratio per game while also shooting it well from 3.

His development this year has been awesome and I am looking forward to watching him grow even more this season.
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It has been good to seem him adapt to a smaller role. Doing the high volume scoring thing was fine on a Cavs team with limited help... but to contribute to a winner he needs to improve on this version of what he is doing.
 
I can definitely see improvement in his decision making when to pass to a teammate, when to take it himself hard to the basket, and now we are seeing a new wrinkle with the finesse floater type shots near the basket. We are seeing more of him searching for teammates while he's doing those probe dribbles near the baseline too.

Obviously Conley as a veteran is going to get more benefit of the doubt especially from rotation vets like Clarkson, Olynyk, Beasley, etc. Everything seems to be running fine with the offense the past few weeks but in the 4th quarter during crunch time of closer games I see our guys trying to play too much one on one. I think Conley as the veteran leader has a better chance of getting his teammates into the proper sets. It's no knock on Sexton, I think he's been great, but Conley as the 15 year vet is just going to command that type of respect while Sexton is just 23 and still in diapers when it comes to running a team.

I'm not sure of his future role on this team (starter/6th man/PG/SG/whatever) but looking forward to seeing him improve more as the season progresses.
 
Sorry, but it has to be done. Mitchell for the year is at a career high of 28.4 ppg on a career high of 48.8% with 4.9 assists and 3.1 to a game. I think we’d all say he’s had an amazing year.

Obviously Mitchell is the better player at this stage, but if these 9 games are indicative of who Sexton is I think we can be very happy with the result and his future.
 
Pinhead said:
And it has nothing to do with other people’s performances, teams adjusting now that they have film, referees beginning to play more of a role in Jazz games, or the difference of NAW and THT filling the backup minutes being nowhere near as effective as Sexton filling those minutes.
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Sure, you can put some of it on that, but the Jazz are clearly much worse with Sexton as a starter than Conley (closing these close games has been ROUGH). The Jazz desperately are missing a table setter. Sexton has shown some good passing ability at times, but he's not a table setter. He's an eater who will sometimes pass the gravy. It's very much the same feeling I had regarding Mitchell, the issue is that Sexton is even smaller. If he is ever to be the starter (which I know isnt necessary, but I also know Sexton very much desires that) it will require a perfect backcourt match next to him to make it work for winning basketball.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Sure, you can put some of it on that, but the Jazz are clearly much worse with Sexton as a starter than Conley (closing these close games has been ROUGH). The Jazz desperately are missing a table setter. Sexton has shown some good passing ability at times, but he's not a table setter. He's an eater who will sometimes pass the gravy. It's very much the same feeling I had regarding Mitchell, the issue is that Sexton is even smaller. If he is ever to be the starter (which I know isnt necessary, but I also know Sexton very much desires that) it will require a perfect backcourt match next to him to make it work for winning basketball.
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I see what you’re saying and mostly agree. I just think that a Conley and Sexton combo seems just as effective as a Conley and Clarkson combo. I think having two shoot first players on the court at the same time during crunch time is hurting the flow of the offense.

Both seem to do fine in non-crunch time… mentalities just change in the final minutes with no efficient alpha controlling the ball.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Sure, you can put some of it on that, but the Jazz are clearly much worse with Sexton as a starter than Conley (closing these close games has been ROUGH). The Jazz desperately are missing a table setter. Sexton has shown some good passing ability at times, but he's not a table setter. He's an eater who will sometimes pass the gravy. It's very much the same feeling I had regarding Mitchell, the issue is that Sexton is even smaller. If he is ever to be the starter (which I know isnt necessary, but I also know Sexton very much desires that) it will require a perfect backcourt match next to him to make it work for winning basketball.
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How is Sexton your equivalent to Mitchell when JC looks 5x more like him driving in and taking contested shots? You are barking at the wrong tree.

Sexton leads the two in following stats for the past 9:
FG%, 3P%, FT%, eFG%, TS%, AST, AST/TO ratio, PIE

JC leads in rebounding and points (and turnovers), but in points he leads by 6.8 with 7.9 more attempts per game. JC also leads in freethrows gained, but only by 1 per game despite his much larger shoot and drive volumes.

I challenge you to find a play by Sexton that looks like this:

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Both Vando and Beasley even had their hands up. Clarkson looked directly at Vando and decided not to pass.

Or this where he gets the bucket due to Blazers 0% effort.. but notice JC had literally everyone open and drove it into 3 guys.

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In fact just look how the rest of the team reacts to that buzzer beater. Dont seem too thrilled..
 
LogGrad98 said:
Jazz record without Conley: 3 wins, 6 losses.


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The only real comparison would be if sexton started and conley came off the bench. Oh and we play the same teams in the same locations as we did when conley was starting.

Of couse we would have a worse record by simply subtracting conley.
Same thing would happen if we simply subtracted sexton.

Anyone trying to make a point by saying we are worse with sexton starting without looking at the rest of the context is an idiot.
(This post is not directed at you btw)


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I want to see him be less concerned with ball movement, less concerned with shot selection and efficiency, and mostly completely involved in every selfish play that exists.
Every loss they have had without Mike in the line up he was the opposite. He was never why they lost those games, his presence had little to do with it, outside of lack of trust from others or more common a lack of chemistry. I think he was highly efficient, highly concerned with ball movement, and completely unselfish and was playing winning ball. But the haters gonna hate
 
fishonjazz said:
The only real comparison would be if sexton started and conley came off the bench. Oh and we play the same teams in the same locations as we did when conley was starting.

Of couse we would have a worse record by simply subtracting conley.
Same thing would happen if we simply subtracted sexton.

Anyone trying to make a point by saying we are worse with sexton starting without looking at the rest of the context is an idiot.
(This post is not directed at you btw)


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Sexton in place of Conley is +12 in NetRtg, in 131 vs 176 minutes.

Its funny that Sexton actually does deserve blame for our poor run. His bench points are now down to an abysmal 0.

I do enjoy Conley running the offense more, but depth matters and our other bench guys have not stepped up to replace Sextons bench production.
 
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