The Biden Administration and All Things Politics

[FalseFlagg K]

Correct. Outside of the fact that she's high profile, she's a civilian, railroaded for a minor crime.

oh of course no doubt politically motivated but ..

 

[Gameface]

Spies and people like that are traded often. There's a bit of a gentlemen's agreement to not come down to hard on them because all major powers have their agents in those places too.

I don't know any specifics about this particular guy. I imagine he's particularly horrible.

 

[gandalfe]

oh of course no doubt politically motivated but ..

Are you saying that because she's a private citizen she should NOT have been traded for?

 

[FalseFlagg K]

Are you saying that because she's a private citizen she should NOT have been traded for?

in exchange for a convicted arms dealer currently serving a sentence ?? lol hell no Why should she have ?

 

[FalseFlagg K]

Let me clarify that by saying they should have negotiated her release somehow but not for some awful person like this .. incredibly bad precedent

 

[Deleted member 365]

LOL at people who don’t know **** about this guy thinking this is a good/bad move. What’s the trade value of an arms dealer? Can we get 5 picks from Minny for one? How do we even know that Griner did what she was accused of? Russia isn’t exactly a good faith actor here, right? Remember when they invaded Ukraine cuz NATO NAZIS made them?

I think it’s pretty safe to say that no one on this board has near enough information about this to make judgment.

I’m just Glad we got Griner, an American, out of that ******** country. Sounded like she was placed in a gulag. Horrible

 

[gandalfe]

LOL at people who don’t know **** about this guy thinking this is a good/bad move. What’s the trade value of an arms dealer? Can we get 5 picks from Minny for one? How do we even know that Griner did what she was accused of? Russia isn’t exactly a good faith actor here, right? Remember when they invaded Ukraine cuz NATO NAZIS made them?

I think it’s pretty safe to say that no one on this board has near enough information about this to make judgment.

I’m just Glad we got Griner, an American, out of that ******** country. Sounded like she was placed in a gulag. Horrible

Exactly. I think that more might come out soon about what really happened, but it's also possible the State Dept will tell her to keep her mouth shut so as to not jeopardize other deals in play.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

does a normal US citizen have their arse saved if they're in Russian prison for drug possesion ?

 

[FalseFlagg K]

Exactly. I think that more might come out soon about what really happened, but it's also possible the State Dept will tell her to keep her mouth shut so as to not jeopardize other deals in play.

there's been zero talk that she didn't actually have the drugs, just that Russia was crazy zealous in applying the letter of the law for political expediency. And if this arms dealer has so little value as suggestion why on earth did Russia want him back ???

 

[fishonjazz]

does a normal US citizen have their arse saved if they're in Russian prison for drug possesion ?

Normal US citizen probably doesn't get put in the russian prison for 9 years for 1 gram of marijuana in the first place. They wouldn't need to be saved. I think the reason she got 9 years in prison for a gram of marijuana is due to the fact that she is high profile.
Just my opinion though and a guess.

 

[fishonjazz]

And if this arms dealer has so little value as suggestion why on earth did Russia want him back ???

Probably knew that people in the US would freak the **** out about it. They like it when we do that. And they probably dont really give a **** about griner being in their prison or not. She poses no threat to russia.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Exactly. I think that more might come out soon about what really happened, but it's also possible the State Dept will tell her to keep her mouth shut so as to not jeopardize other deals in play.

Correct. And given the Kremlin’s recent miscalculations, we should probably stop making them out to be the “stable geniuses” that the right wing here idolizes so much. I get that many on the right are amplifying the criticism here because Biden is president. Had Trump done this, the same critics today would be singing his praises. So once we peel back the partisanship, what do we even know about this deal at this time? How can anyone here make a judgement about this? I’m glad we got her out. But I don’t think anyone here knows enough about this to really give an accurate assessment of this.

Clearly, her arrest and sentence was based largely on who she was, where she came from, and the war the Russia started against Ukraine.