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Its Time to Tank

Tank is on process. Seems that DA and staff realize that we are good but not good enough. No interest to ended 6-10 and loose at Play in or first round. Manage players smartly ( as they did tonight) and we will be bottom 6-7. Get one lucky draft and one good FA and we back on track !!
Our schedule will turn easier based on all measurements (# of b2bs, rest advantage, opponent strength... even 1 extra home game). We are in good position to make the top 6 even without trades, and if we find a good trade then that might push us even further. No one is owning the West atm.
 
There are a lot of quasi-contenders who need to make moves to put them on Boston/Milwaukee/NOLA level of contention.

Utah just has to sit tight and wait for the offers to roll in. No need to sell off now. Our ceiling as a team is probably the 6th seed. Our floor is probably 11th.

We can easily sell this thing off if the offers are good enough and get to the 8-10th worst record in the NBA. The good thing about a clear floor being set by the ****** teams is that the Jazz know there is no way they can get that bad, so there is no rush to make bad trades.
 
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There are a lot of quasi-contenders who need to make moves to put them on Boston/Milwaukee/NOLA level of contention.

Utah just has to sit tight and wait for the offers to roll in.
Unfortunately, I presume most teams will be calling about Lauri, and he's obviously off limits in any kind of tank-related fire sale.

Olynyk may still have a market, but at this point it's small and specific. His defensive shortcomings are becoming worse by the year, and he'd be mercilessly hunted in a playoff series environment. I'm sceptical.

In theory, most teams can use a scorer off the bench like Clarkson, but he's looking for one more big bag at 30 years of age, and that's a headache most playoff teams with established rosters could probably do without.

I don't see much of a market for Conley (as important as he is for this team), Sexton, NAW or THT.

Beasley is the guy who will probably be gone quickly if we actually start making guys available. He's still young, on a reasonable contract, and everyone needs bench shooting. I'd keep him though.
 
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What kind of timescale are we talking about here?
Well considering we are riding a, what near 50-year long dry spell, I would imagine as long as you could vaguely attrribute winning a championship to a string of bad seasons, even if it was 10 years further down the road, it would probably be worth it. Now, if they let that happen and they don't have any kind of plan and it just kind of fades away and doesn't amount to anything that will be an abject failure. But if we can connect a string of points from point A - losing seasons for a couple of years, to point Z - winning the championship, then it would be worth it. So, losing seasons means we get picks A, B, and C and that leads to players D, E, and F, which facilitates trades G, H, and I, which leads to picks J, k, and L and free agent signing M, N, and O, which gets used in a trade for player P, and picks Q, R, and S, which then get flipped into players T and U, and a trade for player V, with picks leading to W, X, and a final trade for the last piece, player Y, leading to Championship Z!! Well that would be worth it.

But if it dies out somewhere at points D through M or something and the next step is basically "start over from point A", then it would have been a failure, as we have obviously seen so many many times before.


We started this path a while ago, but by about step D it ended up in DedEx, which lead us right back around to A again. Really bad moves like that short-circuit the process and cause us to start over again. Even seemingly meaningless later moves can interrupt the process, like Doke take instead of, who was it, Bane that year, or even McDaniels, both of whom would have been far better for our team at that point. Or using assets to trade up and take a player like Trey Burke, chasing a position rather than taking BPA when there were still guys on the board like CJ McCollum, Schroder, Steven Adams, and good hell, Giannis. Can't have that many whiffs like that. Imagine in a single draft picking up Giannis and Gobert. Wow.

So as long as we don't just screw the pooch the hope is that a few rough years ends in enough assets which, used wisely, can get us in a position to win the chip. As long as it does, with a direct line from point A to point Z, then it was worth it.
 
Unfortunately, I presume most teams will be calling about Lauri, and he's obviously off limits in any kind of tank-related fire sale.

Olynyk may still have a market, but at this point it's small and specific. His defensive shortcomings are becoming worse by the year, and he'd be mercilessly hunted in a playoff series environment. I'm sceptical.

In theory, most teams can use a scorer off the bench like Clarkson, but he's looking for one more big bag at 30 years of age, and that's a headache most playoff teams with established rosters could probably do without.

I don't see much of a market for Conley (as important as he is for this team), Sexton, NAW or THT.

Beasley is the guy who will probably be gone quickly if we actually start making guys available. He's still young, on a reasonable contract, and everyone needs bench shooting. I'd keep him though.
You forgot Vando. If Hardy won't play him and Kessler together, and if we want Kessler to play more, then we need to move Vando.
 
You forgot Vando. If Hardy won't play him and Kessler together, and if we want Kessler to play more, then we need to move Vando.
This. Time to get what we can for Vando. The guy is an energy guy that makes you feel like he is doing more than he is for us on the court. But activity does not equal effectiveness. We could get an asset or 2 for him, even if just a few 2nd rounders, or such, and that would open up room for Kessler to play more.
 
There are a lot of quasi-contenders who need to make moves to put them on Boston/Milwaukee/NOLA level of contention.

Utah just has to sit tight and wait for the offers to roll in. No need to sell off now. Our ceiling as a team is probably the 6th seed. Our floor is probably 11th.

We can easily sell this thing off if the offers are good enough and get to the 8-10th worst record in the NBA. The good thing about a clear floor being set by the ****** teams is that the Jazz know there is no way they can get that bad, so there is no rush to make bad trades.
Agree with everything in this post except NOLA being in a selective contender tier. They've got a good point differential and all, but I have no faith in that team in the playoffs, just surprised to see someone so high on them
 
Agree with everything in this post except NOLA being in a selective contender tier. They've got a good point differential and all, but I have no faith in that team in the playoffs, just surprised to see someone so high on them
Yeah, wild to be high on a team that is #1 in the West despite dealing with a ton of injuries
 
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