Who are your keepers?

[Eddie Zero]

Imo its still early to know who will be retained long term,if anyone, from this retooling season. The rebuild label seems premature overall, given they got so many assets back in the summer trades already, but I guess with a new coach and so much turnover you could say they already effectrively hit fast-forward and never intended for a long rebuild. I don't know anyone is safe or a keeper, but clearly most of these traded for players have a shot to be part of something for awhile.
I would expect the Finnisher is the only true legitimate piece,that Danny won't move for less than a haul. Everyone else is going to be much less likely to be here even if all of them have a case to remain.
But he coiuld easily move him as well. He has done that kind of thing before lol

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Only player I would be actively looking to trade would be Sexton. (Assuming I'm playing to win, not tank. If I'm trying to lose a lot of games I'm trade Beasley and Olynyk as well)

JV would probably be the 2nd, but I would be sad. There doesnt seem to be a willingness to play him and Kessler together though, and Kessler looks like he has the better future. I wouldnt trade JV this year though.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

IF the season ended today how high would you got on a 3 year deal?

He's restricted so I'd wait out his market. If I had to guess right now I would guess this shooting performance is a big outlier and he is a solid 5th guard option. Wouldn't match anything over like $5M a year. If I was negotiating with him without any offers I'd probably top out at like 3/12M final year team option. He was headed towards being a minimum guy... 5-6 good games is not something to discard the last three years of information over.

 

[HeatCheck]

Potential long term keepers:
Lauri, Kessler, Sexton, NAW, and possibly Fontecchio are the players I could potentially still see here in 3+ years.

*Anyone* is tradable for the right price and Ainge is obviously a hell of a negotiator. The future is going to be bright in Jazzland.

 

[fishonjazz]

Oh yeah I definitely forgot Simone. He is above meh for me and below really being excited about him long-term as a 27yo rookie. Might make a new tier above meh for him and Ochai called "Hopes and dreams that I know will never actually move the needle for us"

I think you nailed it again. Perfect spot for those two.


Sent from my iPad using JazzFanz mobile app

 

[Jaanipoeg]

If the season did end today, I think NAW's best case scenario would be a young team throwing their mini-MLE at him on a prove-it sort of deal. Kind of like Lonnie Walker in LA. Walker was an inefficient scoring guard on a bad team, but has rounded into a much more valuable player.

 

[HeatCheck]

Only player I would be actively looking to trade would be Sexton. (Assuming I'm playing to win, not tank. If I'm trying to lose a lot of games I'm trade Beasley and Olynyk as well)

JV would probably be the 2nd, but I would be sad. There doesnt seem to be a willingness to play him and Kessler together though, and Kessler looks like he has the better future. I wouldnt trade JV this year though.

Not at this point. Sexton's value should only go up on that contract. He's probably the one player on the entire roster with enough speed to consistently beat his man off the dribble tbh. That could obviously change after 1-2 drafts though.

JV and Beasley might be the ones at/near their highest values at their current production. Jazz only have them under contractual control for another season. If Ainge can get a haul for them it will open up spots for our draft picks. I'd hate to deal Beas but his shooting is going to be a very hot commodity at the deadline and they can give those minutes to develop Simone/Agbaji.

Just my thoughts as I'm putting on my Trader Danny hat this morning.

 

[HeatCheck]

If the season did end today, I think NAW's best case scenario would be a young team throwing their mini-MLE at him on a prove-it sort of deal. Kind of like Lonnie Walker in LA. Walker was an inefficient scoring guard on a bad team, but has rounded into a much more valuable player.

Yeah I think teams would be skeptical to give him a big contract based on his up and down production in New Orleans. It would be nice if Ainge can retain him on a value contract.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Not at this point. Sexton's value should only go up on that contract. He's probably the one player on the entire roster with enough speed to consistently beat his man off the dribble tbh. That could obviously change after 1-2 drafts though.

JV and Beasley might be the ones at/near their highest values at their current production. Jazz only have them under contractual control for another season. If Ainge can get a haul for them it will open up spots for our draft picks. I'd hate to deal Beas but his shooting is going to be a very hot commodity at the deadline and they can give those minutes to develop Simone/Agbaji.

Just my thoughts as I'm putting on my Trader Danny hat this morning.

Ehh, I'd move him as soon as you can get an expiring contract and a pick.

He's a tough fit as you build you roster. Always having to account for the counter balances needed to make a 6'1 scoring guard who is reluctant to take spot-up shots makes team building harder.

NAW has emerged, and even if he isnt as good as he is now, he's a better overall player because of his length/defense/spot up shooting.

Beasley is borderline elite as a shooter so it's tough to actually get on board (though I think about it often) with the idea of trading him given the Jazz might not get a better shooter than him within the next decade.

 

[HeatCheck]

Ehh, I'd move him as soon as you can get an expiring contract and a pick.

Beasley is borderline elite as a shooter so it's tough to actually get on board (though I think about it often) with the idea of trading him given the Jazz might not get a better shooter than him within the next decade.

He's a tough fit as you build you roster. Always having to account for the counter balances needed to make a 6'1 scoring guard who is reluctant to take spot-up shots makes team building harder.

NAW has emerged, and even if he isnt as good as he is now, he's a better overall player because of his length/defense/spot up shooting.

I think Ainge will take a long approach view and move guys at the zenith of their value. If he moves Sexton believe me Ainge will squeeze a prospect+FRP for him and can't see that happening any sooner then the draft, if it happens at all. He's not going to get anything good if he looks desperate to dump any of our players which is why he was patient and didn't trade guys in September when teams like the Lakers were sniffing around trying to get a discount.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think Ainge will take a long approach view and move guys at the zenith of their value. If he moves Sexton believe me Ainge will squeeze a prospect+FRP for him and can't see that happening any sooner then the draft, if it happens at all. He's not going to get anything if he looks desperate to dump any of our players which is why he was patient and didn't trade guys in September when teams like the Lakers were sniffing around trying to get a discount.

Disagree. Ainge has already shown he is willing to move a player to make room for the guys he sees as better or more essential to the team moving forward.

He certainly wont get desperate by any means, but I dont think is just going hold to max value on all these guys. He probably wants more data points/time to see whats going on than the rest of us do though.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Ehh, I'd move him as soon as you can get an expiring contract and a pick.

He's a tough fit as you build you roster. Always having to account for the counter balances needed to make a 6'1 scoring guard who is reluctant to take spot-up shots makes team building harder.

NAW has emerged, and even if he isnt as good as he is now, he's a better overall player because of his length/defense/spot up shooting.

Beasley is borderline elite as a shooter so it's tough to actually get on board (though I think about it often) with the idea of trading him given the Jazz might not get a better shooter than him within the next decade.

If NAW is for real (and I don't mean he continues to shoot 56% from 3 but is 40% ish) then it creates an opportunity to move JC, Sexton, or Conley. I just move the one or two that have the most value. Mike doesn't seem to have a lot of suitors and I think the vet mentorship and just steady hand is such that I'm cool keeping him until he is expiring and seeing what trades pop up.

I think JC has the most value. I have wondered if his value would increase with an extension. He almost certainly would opt out of his deal right now but if you got him to opt in and added 2 years with 20% raises (that the most they could do) I think it might actually increase his value.

I love Collin but I'm not above trading him. I actually think NAW and Collin would work quite well. NAW being bigger and more defense/pass oriented... and he can spot up off of Sexton driving. I think NAW gets himself in trouble when trying to self create too much and I am still not a believer in his off the dribble shooting.

I also don't think the way Collin has been playing makes him a tough fit. They way he played in Cleveland makes him tough to fit, but he seems focused on fitting what Hardy needs and plays hard on defense. He's not super impactful on defense but he's not Trae Young either.