Time to shake it up!

[Handlogten's Heros]

All this for a little side point, I wouldn't expect less from you. I don't know if you even remember the actual discussion, but my point was that I don't like games that don't matter. I think you made this attempt to try to convince me otherwise by trying to say, "everyone else thinks this is amazing", but I really don't care. Soccer has been the most popular sport in the world and it's popularity has not changed my view on it. What changed my view on it was learning the structure of the competition and how much more meaningful ever game was.

I told you this was my view on the NBA and my view only. You could tell me I'm the only one who feels this way (viewership might say otherwise), but it's not going to bully me into liking the NBA lol. I don't need others to validate the fact that I like when games matter more. I don't like how we have to question if it was even good to win the game or whether or not we should trade our new young star on a cheap long term contract.

Somehow this has gone to whether or not market factors have driven the increase in value or the day to day product. To me, significantly more buyers with more money (both on the TV side and ownership side) is self explanatory. But I guess in your mind that doesn't matter, and it's actually the games that don't matter which is why NBA values are up. Choice is yours whether you think it's the changing market factors or the games which less people are watching.

I was simply responding to the point and examples you brought up but sure... if you don't enjoy watching the NBA it might just be that you don't enjoy the sport of basketball. Not trying to convert you... its just a weird stance to say "yeah I love basketball" and " the nba is a garbage product cuz not every game carries extreme consequences".

Anyway you do you.. when those clouds appear you give em hell.

 

[KqWIN]

I was simply responding to the point and examples you brought up but sure... if you don't enjoy watching the NBA it might just be that you don't enjoy the sport of basketball. Not trying to convert you... its just a weird stance to say "yeah I love basketball" and " the nba is a garbage product cuz not every game carries extreme consequences".

Anyway you do you.. when those clouds appear you give em hell.

Well this has become circular. Liking basketball and wanting the basketball games to matter are not mutually exclusive. I honestly cannot comprehend how those are competing ideas. But no point in trying to hash that out again. You can just tell me how much I hate basketball because I wouldn’t know that about myself.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Anyways, this is just a long winded rant about why the NBA is ruined for me. If others still enjoy, I wish I was with you. The fact that Lauri being traded is a somewhat logical move, in large part because we cannot suck with him…..that represents what the modern NBA is and I can’t be bothered anymore. I’d rather follow a sport where the games matter and they matter because both teams want to win.

Call me a fair weather fan if you want, but that’s not it. It sucked when the Jazz were the best team in the league just as it does now. When the 82 game season means nothing, the league means nothing.

My bad you are right… loving basketball and saying the NBA is ruined and you can’t enjoy it are completely consistent thoughts and only an idiot would get it twisted lolz.

I mean if you want to be overly dramatic and quit following the sport cuz the regular season doesn’t mean enough for you it’s likely it’s just cuz you love the sport too much… if you love it then let it go right?

 

[KqWIN]

My bad you are right… loving basketball and saying the NBA is ruined and you can’t enjoy it are completely consistent thoughts and only an idiot would get it twisted lolz.

I mean if you want to be overly dramatic and quit following the sport cuz the regular season doesn’t mean enough for you it’s likely it’s just cuz you love the sport too much… if you love it then let it go right?

I like basketball. The less meaning the basketball has the less I like the league. I don't like the NBA as much because the league has deemphasized the actual basketball being played. I don't know you understand this, but the sport of basketball and the league we call the NBA are not the same thing. My enjoyment of basketball hasn't changed. My enjoyment of the league has changed because of the increasing deemphasis on basketball and the increasing emphasis on games not mattering and losing on purpose. You may enjoy the preseason, the regular season, and the playoffs to different extents. That does not mean you like basketball less because you don't enjoy a preseason game the same as a playoff game.

But of course, you know whether or not I enjoy basketball more than myself. In the future instead of offering my opinions and rationale I will consult with you beforehand because you know more about what I feel and why I feel that way. I can't possibly form my own opinions and must have someone else make them up for me.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

I like basketball. The less meaning the basketball has the less I like the league. I don't like the NBA as much because the league has deemphasized the actual basketball being played. I don't know you understand this, but the sport of basketball and the league we call the NBA are not the same thing. My enjoyment of basketball hasn't changed. My enjoyment of the league has changed because of the increasing deemphasis on basketball and the increasing emphasis on games not mattering and losing on purpose. You may enjoy the preseason, the regular season, and the playoffs to different extents. That does not mean you like basketball less because you don't enjoy a preseason game the same as a playoff game.

But of course, you know whether or not I enjoy basketball more than myself. In the future instead of offering my opinions and rationale I will consult with you beforehand because you know more about what I feel and why I feel that way. I can't possibly form my own opinions and must have someone else make them up for me.

who is losing on purpose?