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YoungJefe said:
The police don't charge him, the program doesn't discipline him, yet he's guilty on JF.
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From all the reporting Miller didnt really do anything other than park by the exit and give a gun owner his gun.

Some of the reporting is framed and worded in a way on purpose, but it isn't necessarily factual. Miller/Bradley parking by the exit might be blocking the exit or might just be they didnt want to be near the other car and wanted a quick get away from whatever was going on.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
From all the reporting Miller didnt really do anything other than park by the exit and give a gun owner his gun.

Some of the reporting is framed and worded in a way on purpose, but it isn't necessarily factual. Miller/Bradley parking by the exit might be blocking the exit or might just be they didnt want to be near the other car and wanted a quick get away from whatever was going on.
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Miller parked his car in the line of fire and almost got shot, doubt that was his plan.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
From the story Miller was the DD that night and the gun was just in the backseat.

Also, from the report it said the victim's car at one point left the area, came back and parked and turned their lights off. IN another report the victim's car says they did that because they were waiting for their food. . I can understand the potential paranoia that this all can cause. Not excusing it, as it seems like it was mostly self-inflicted, but I can see the situation in my mind and how it would be difficult to navigate.
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I don't see that anywhere. The account I saw was the two players walked away from the jeep and then came back... there were two cars blocking its path (one was Miller's). The stuff the dude yelled do not strike me as paranoia... they are warnings "you don't know what I do". If they were paranoid they had a chance to leave the situation pretty damn easily... they chose to escalate it.

They acted like assholes... someone didn't like it... they wanted to further bully this dude and he tried to protect himself. How much Miller knew... ehhhh who knows. But painting him as a good buddy just trying to help these guys protect themselves is beyond rich. He likely hung around them long enough to know how they roll.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
From all the reporting Miller didnt really do anything other than park by the exit and give a gun owner his gun.

Some of the reporting is framed and worded in a way on purpose, but it isn't necessarily factual. Miller/Bradley parking by the exit might be blocking the exit or might just be they didnt want to be near the other car and wanted a quick get away from whatever was going on.
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YoungJefe said:
Miller parked his car in the line of fire and almost got shot, doubt that was his plan.
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You guys are right... this dude with his girlfriend was likely targeting them and Miller got there just at the right time to make sure they could defend themselves. If he really was trying to stay out of the way why bring a gun to your buddies at 2 AM... just tell them you will pick them up and leave. Why park somewhere you can quickly get away... drop off a loaded weapon to your homies and hope to escape right after... if you think its THAT dangerous wouldn't the best self defense be a quick pickup?

Or his buddies were acting like idiots... he helped them act like idiots... and someone got scared and did something they did not expect and a tragic death occurred.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
You guys are right... this dude with his girlfriend was likely targeting them and Miller got there just at the right time to make sure they could defend themselves. If he really was trying to stay out of the way why bring a gun to your buddies at 2 AM... just tell them you will pick them up and leave. Why park somewhere you can quickly get away... drop off a loaded weapon to your homies and hope to escape right after... if you think its THAT dangerous wouldn't the best self defense be a quick pickup?

Or his buddies were acting like idiots... he helped them act like idiots... and someone got scared and did something they did not expect and a tragic death occurred.
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Because there is a car there with a gun who is potentially (in their minds) waiting to follow them.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
If I'm white I probably call the cops. If I'm young black african american with alcohol and guns involved, I wouldnt even dream of calling Alabama police.
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1000% this. There is some massive lack of understanding of how a large portion of this country lives and interacts with the police in this thread. "Just call the police" is a wild over simplification and makes me sad honestly.
 
The whole they felt threatened because they had parked the car with the lights out is just hilarious... because their effing hazards were on...

In the video shown in court, the Jeep can be seen with its headlamps off and hazard lights flashing as it was parked along the curb near the intersection of Grace Street and University Boulevard.

If you are trying to get the jump on someone the way to do it is throw the lights on that bring the most attention to the car.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Because there is a car there with a gun who is potentially (in their minds) waiting to follow them.
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Okay... so best to go wild west and engage them... or were they too drunk to process that... but not simultaneously too drunk to process the presence of danger.

Miller's role here may not be something they ever prosecute but if he is innocent of anything sinister then he is guilty of some of the dumbest judgement possible.
 
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