David Locke - Utah Jazz are NOT tanking

[HermanG]

wrong sir... competitive is having a strong desire to be more successful than others. Both teams seemed to really want to be more successful than the other... so both were competitive... yet one is tanking?

True. Which we have and which we are to a certain extent.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Unless the equipment guys are intentionally forgetting the sneakers and forcing us to play in socks we are not tanking... it says it on reddit.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

And why were we depleted?

Where was Beasely?

Beasley was absolutely terrible for us before the trade.

He played zero defense and couldn't hit the broad side of the barn.

He literally shot us out of several games.

Vando was a tweener with no ball skills who didn't fit with our young starting center. Conley is almost retired. NAW may or may not be an NBA rotation player. You never know what you're gonna get.

I had no problem with sending these guys out. I just wanted a useful player or two coming the other way.

 

[HermanG]

And why were we depleted?

Where was Beasely?

No one argued the trade didnt make us worse. It still didnt make us bad enough to fall in the standings even one spot.

 

[HermanG]

Your definition comes with a one sentence definition that adds no context... and that you are misinterpreting. Here is a ****ing article with actual examples that talks about how this actually works...

https://theathletic.com/4243267/2023/02/23/victor-wembanyama-nba-draft-lottery/

No there is plenty of context. Im not gonna copy-paste all that here though. Just used the short concised definition.

 

[HermanG]

Wait so we lost to a non-competitive tanking team that is so bad they lost 16 straight games? I have a hard time believing that. I mean they played Doug McDermott last night and he's old... tanking teams would have offloaded that guy.

I guess we were just short handed last night... man how did we go from the best bench in the league to being so short handed we are playing two way guys and guys on 10 days? Weird.

You still dont get it. The trade made us worse, but it still wasnt a tanking trade.

How do you always circle into the same points? I establish two things now, please never repeat them claiming I have ever argued them:

The trade didnt make us worse.

You dont need to trade everything to tank.

I gotta hit the sack as its past midnight.. but we can take it from here as I do find this funny now that you are keeping it more civil.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

You still dont get it. The trade made us worse, but it still wasnt a tanking trade.

Makes perfect sense... my bad.

How do you always circle into the same points? I establish two things now, please never repeat them claiming I have ever argued them:

Because the truth doesn't change.

The trade didnt make us worse.

Oh... I must be confused because you literally said "the trade made us worse" like two sentences ago... my bad.

You dont need to trade everything to tank.

I agree.

I gotta hit the sack as its past midnight.. but we can take it from here as I do find this funny now that you are keeping it more civil.

My posts put you to bed like a Steph Curry dagger three.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The what is and isn't tanking discussion might be the worst argument on JFC of all time

 

[Bawse Dawg]

You still dont get it. The trade made us worse, but it still wasnt a tanking trade.

How do you always circle into the same points? I establish two things now, please never repeat them claiming I have ever argued them:

The trade didnt make us worse.

You dont need to trade everything to tank.

I gotta hit the sack as its past midnight.. but we can take it from here as I do find this funny now that you are keeping it more civil.

 

[latin jazz]

The what is and isn't tanking discussion might be the worst argument on JFC of all time

Someone needs to take a peek at General Discussion . The "coronavirus" thread says hello

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Beasley was absolutely terrible for us before the trade.

He played zero defense and couldn't hit the broad side of the barn.

He literally shot us out of several games.

Vando was a tweener with no ball skills who didn't fit with our young starting center. Conley is almost retired. NAW may or may not be an NBA rotation player. You never know what you're gonna get.

I had no problem with sending these guys out. I just wanted a useful player or two coming the other way.

Okay now compare what those guys bring to what Tech, THT, JTA, Juzang, Dunn… how they looking now