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David Locke - Utah Jazz are NOT tanking

HermanG said:
Btw we created a monster. You and I (fish also) are the OG tank no-tank debaters... but this thread is 18 pages in 1 day lmao.
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We did... and now I will have to sit in it and get lol'd every time we win a game. At least we didn't say Kessler should go to the G League though.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
We did... and now I will have to sit in it and get lol'd every time we win a game. At least we didn't say Kessler should go to the G League though.
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Which honestly is a ****** place to be. I enjoy winning and playing well still in the moment. Its like McDonald's... **** tastes good right now but later I'm like "why did I do that".
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
We did... and now I will have to sit in it and get lol'd every time we win a game. At least we didn't say Kessler should go to the G League though.
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Yeah well whatever happens, we gonna be in a good place......

......

....except if we start this debate ever again.
First one was 6 pages in 48 hours
This was 18 pages in 24 hours
Next one by steady progression would be 54 pages in 12 hours
 
Well I for 1 am predicting we drop down the standings like a ton of bricks over the final stretch as DA start to tighten his grip on the team.

Let’s see if I’m right or wrong.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Its what he should do. i don't fault him for it at all... I also wouldn't point to him as the oracle of truth so will take what he says with a grain of salt.

I mean its always Locke telling us a trade isn't about money... when it clearly is... or talking about the virtues of selling worthless second round picks to have capital to invest in the program. Everyone just has to have their eyes open and judge for themselves.
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Right....like why would you go to a team employee to tell you that the team isn't trying to win? Have no idea why people get mad that a team employee is trying to give a PR approach and put the team in a good light. Why do we get mad at people for doing their job lol.
 
HermanG said:
Well it essentially is what happened. Whether tank was plan A or plan B is debatable. But we wanted to get guys in return who had huge upside.. and if we fell flat then the draft was always there waiting.
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Agreed.
 
HermanG said:
Yeah well whatever happens, we gonna be in a good place......

......

....except if we start this debate ever again.
First one was 6 pages in 48 hours
This was 18 pages in 24 hours
Next one by steady progression would be 54 pages in 12 hours
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Eventually, infinite pages in 0 hours. Please, think of the children!!
 
LogGrad98 said:
Just because they aren't winning doesn't mean they aren't trying!
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If teams were trying to optimize their chances of optimizing their winning each year (which is what I think the original thought was), there would be a whole lot more trades involving rookies and second-year guys. Even the Warriors last year could have traded Wiseman, Moody, Kuminga for players that would have increased their odds of winning (despite the fact that they won the whole thing). Should we call that tanking?
 
Bodhi said:
This thread is the only one really moving lately here, but Christ it’s boring.

That’s my contribution.
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To me it beats the endless beating of the chests about how we know how to draft or manage the money numbers than better DL did, or the interminable arguments about who were the innocent ones and who were the culprits in the meltdown last year -- themes that occupied innumerable threads last year. But hey, to each their own.
 
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idiot said:
If teams were trying to optimize their chances of optimizing their winning each year (which is what I think the original thought was), there would be a whole lot more trades involving rookies and second-year guys. Even the Warriors last year could have traded Wiseman, Moody, Kuminga for players that would have increased their odds of winning (despite the fact that they won the whole thing). Should we call that tanking?
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Well, good point. Letting your players grow but not taking yourself out of the playoff race. I guess it should be called not optimizing your team for a playoff run while still considering growing your team should be called something else.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Well I for 1 am predicting we drop down the standings like a ton of bricks over the final stretch as DA start to tighten his grip on the team.

Let’s see if I’m right or wrong.
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LOL .. we won out-tanked OKC today.. that’s a good start.
 
ONE LOVE said:
@HermanG

Still insisting we’re not tanking my friend?

0-2 since our last conversation lol..
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So now our record IS valid evidence? Interesting double standards you got.

You declared that actions are everything. What additional tanking measures have we taken since you insist on keeping this thread alive?
 
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