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Game Thread Mar 20, 2023 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Kings

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Ron Mexico said:
Kessler has hands that Gobert can only dream about. But I'm not sure how much more he can develop offensively. His jump shot looks decent like it has some potential though. I mean look at Malone's rookie year from the FT and jump shooting in general.
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Yeah anything is possible.

Gobert is an all time offensive player though. I don't think WK can baby hook his way to being a better offensive player than Gobert. Plus there's the issue that WK probably won't ever develop the ability to get to the ft line that Gobert did. So in my estimation for WK to be a better offensive player than Gobert he will need to be a 75%+ ft shooter and be 60% plus from the floor with a shot diet that exist outside of 5 feet.

The best thing you can say about WK over Gobert offensively is that he is more trustworthy with the ball in tight spaces.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I just find the "I like Kessler more than Gobert because a bunch of people who didn't know jackshit about basketball hated on Gobert and I'm insecure about my basketball team" lame AF.
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I find the “I like Gobert more than Kessler just because” person annoying sometimes
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Yeah anything is possible.

Gobert is an all time offensive player though. I don't think WK can baby hook his way to being a better offensive player than Gobert. Plus there's the issue that WK probably won't ever develop the ability to get to the ft line that Gobert did. So in my estimation for WK to be a better offensive player than Gobert he will need to be a 75%+ ft shooter and be 60% plus from the floor with a shot diet that exist outside of 5 feet.

The best thing you can say about WK over Gobert offensively is that he is more trustworthy with the ball in tight spaces.
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That last part seems to matter a lot in the playoffs. We can also compare their rookie years and it's not really a discussion between the two. But who knows how Kessler develops. Gobert made huge jumps his first 3/4 years, if Kessler can do 1/4 of that he'll turn out better. But I also think we've seen most of what Kessler will be when he's played at his peak this year, but I hope I'm wrong.
 
Ron Mexico said:
That last part seems to matter a lot in the playoffs. We can also compare their rookie years and it's not really a discussion between the two. But who knows how Kessler develops. Gobert made huge jumps his first 3/4 years, if Kessler can do 1/4 of that he'll turn out better. But I also think we've seen most of what Kessler will be when he's played at his peak this year, but I hope I'm wrong.
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Like I said, anything is possible.

And yes, there is some intrinsic value in having a bit of a more steady hand. It's hard to measure or say how much. I also think our current coaching is putting a lot less pressure in WK than Gobert had in his prime. He isn't the fulcrum point of an entire offense.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
A correct one. Definitely not a skillfull offensive player, but an efficient scoring machine nonetheless
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I have never associated Gobert with "All time offensive player" or "Efficient Scoring Machine" He was efficient no doubt. But scoring machine?

I assume you're talking about screen assists, the gravity he created, the fact that we had awesome offensive stats when he was one the floor, etc. All valid points. But I think there is some nuance between the team success we had with him, and naming Rudy Gobert as some offensive savant.
 
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