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Just for fun, what would a Trae package from Utah look like:

Sexton/Ochai would headline the deal as players.

Probably add in Olynyk or THT for salary matching.

Would probably need 3 picks to get the deal done: Minny's pick this year, Cavs pick in 2025, and Lakers 2027 pick?
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Just for fun, what would a Trae package from Utah look like:

Sexton/Ochai would headline the deal as players.

Probably add in Olynyk or THT for salary matching.

Would probably need 3 picks to get the deal done: Minny's pick this year, Cavs pick in 2025, and Lakers 2027 pick?
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They can send us picks.

Just kidding, I don’t want him. At all. Even if they sent us picks.
 
Trae is an ***....but he is a really great player. Some team will break the bank for him, I don't think we will be that team. It will be interesting to see which direction they go to and how Dejounte is feeling about staying in ATL long term.
 
KqWIN said:
Trae is an ***....but he is a really great player. Some team will break the bank for him, I don't think we will be that team. It will be interesting to see which direction they go to and how Dejounte is feeling about staying in ATL long term.
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Great is not the word I would use at this point. I think he was on track to be elite early on. Now not so much. His "tactics" have failed the Hawks this season. I do agree some other team will give him a job and he will be the same as he is now for whomever that is. He is clearly not ever going to be playable in the playoffs with that awful defense. I mean thats why they went and got Murray.
I have noticed he seems to not get the calls he got early on in his short career, and it kind of has taken him out of the all star level going forward. Maybe it was because he was always doing that thing they now call the Harden rule?
Either way, at that contract, I wouldn't touch him and I doubt anyone will really without big incentives going to the team that trades for him. I doubt ATL gets what they want for him anyway.
That org still thinks that bum Collins that they have been openly trying to shop for 3 seasons is worth more than he is.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Just for fun, what would a Trae package from Utah look like:

Sexton/Ochai would headline the deal as players.

Probably add in Olynyk or THT for salary matching.

Would probably need 3 picks to get the deal done: Minny's pick this year, Cavs pick in 2025, and Lakers 2027 pick?
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Thats pretty much the opposite of what anyone should give up for a guy who is basically the main reason they can't win in the playoffs.
I doubt DA would not have any interest, but the amount he would send, would be more like s/t JC, THT, maybe Simone and 15 from the Wolves for Trae and 13.
Hawks could probably get more than that despite his flaws being massive despite his elite playmaking ability. I think the league has taken notice and is growing tired of his antics.
 
Just going to keep saying it so I can manifest it. Quickley is the guy we need to open the warchest for. Hopefully the Knicks get stingy in contract negotiations next fall. It might not have Harden -> HOU impact, but he will be an all star when he is a starter.

In 21 games as a starter this season he average 23/5/5 with 60% TS while being one of the best perimeter defenders in the league.
 
Eddie Zero said:
Thats pretty much the opposite of what anyone should give up for a guy who is basically the main reason they can't win in the playoffs.
I doubt DA would not have any interest, but the amount he would send, would be more like s/t JC, THT, maybe Simone and 15 from the Wolves for Trae and 13.
Hawks could probably get more than that despite his flaws being massive despite his elite playmaking ability. I think the league has taken notice and is growing tired of his antics.
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Trae went to the conference finals at one point.

IDK what the exact problem is, but he is very good and you can probably win with him if you have a team optimized around him.

Lauri/WK both fit really well next to Trae.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Trae went to the conference finals at one point.

IDK what the exact problem is, but he is very good and you can probably win with him if you have a team optimized around him.

Lauri/WK both fit really well next to Trae.
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I dont know, I used to like their chances with his orchestrating the offense, but his defense is so bad its unwatchable. His need to get to the line to get enough points to make up for what he gives up, while not getting there as consistently is going to hurt any team he plays for.
 
KqWIN said:
Just going to keep saying it so I can manifest it. Quickley is the guy we need to open the warchest for. Hopefully the Knicks get stingy in contract negotiations next fall. It might not have Harden -> HOU impact, but he will be an all star when he is a starter.

In 21 games as a starter this season he average 23/5/5 with 60% TS while being one of the best perimeter defenders in the league.
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I think it will depend if they are able to get in on a star trade. Otherwise I think they pay the man and figure it out later. If they need to turn Quickley into picks for a star trade... then I think we have a chance.
 
KqWIN said:
Just going to keep saying it so I can manifest it. Quickley is the guy we need to open the warchest for. Hopefully the Knicks get stingy in contract negotiations next fall. It might not have Harden -> HOU impact, but he will be an all star when he is a starter.

In 21 games as a starter this season he average 23/5/5 with 60% TS while being one of the best perimeter defenders in the league.
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Eddie Zero said:
I dont know, I used to like their chances with his orchestrating the offense, but his defense is so bad its unwatchable. His need to get to the line to get enough points to make up for what he gives up, while not getting there as consistently is going to hurt any team he plays for.
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His defense hasnt been that bad this year according to stats. The difference between him on/off court isnt that large, his D Raptor is only -1.1. His DBPM is only -2 (yes, this is pretty bad, but not the worst of the worst).

I think the Hawks just arent all that well built anymore (despite having a lot of pieces I like). Capela is falling off. Collins cant shoot it well enough to be a legit stretch 4. Dejounte isnt a good fit next to Trae. They have a lot of wings, but none of them are elite shooters.

Just musing though. I definitely dont want him, but I can probably talk myself into it.
 
Trae Young isn't even the best guard on his own team. He does nothing without the ball in his hands. Imagine a shorter and more selfish version of Clarkston running the point.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Just for fun, what would a Trae package from Utah look like:

Sexton/Ochai would headline the deal as players.

Probably add in Olynyk or THT for salary matching.

Would probably need 3 picks to get the deal done: Minny's pick this year, Cavs pick in 2025, and Lakers 2027 pick?
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Would well and truly hate this.

If we got him for a super cheap distressed asset deal maybe. Paying the premium? Barf
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Clarkson and Trae really arent alike.
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Maybe that was not the best comparison, but I see a short player that doesn't seem to do much on offense or defense without the ball in his hands. I see someone who takes lots of ill advised shots when teammates are open. I see someone who doesn't make his teammates better. I know Clarkston has improved a lot this season at being more of a team player, but that hasn't always been true over his career.
 
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