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2023 NBA Draft Megathread

whatthe said:
Locke is saying that the draft is inverted. There are lots of highly performing prospects (in terms of percentiles) in the 20's of the draft then in the beginning of the draft. It's a head scratcher why the market is mixing up the values of the players in regards to their performance and their projected draft order.

For instance, Leonard Miller is one of the best transistion players and he is projected in the late 20's. Or there are some shooters/scorers at the rim (Kobe?) who are also projected late.
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Kobe will go in the teens… mock drafts are still catching up
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Essentially a lot of the top freshman underperformed so you are getting a lot of less valued pre-season prospects performing better by statistical analysis. I wouldnt take Locke's first impression as gospel, he isnt meaning it to be that way.
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I listened to this, and it drove me nuts because there’s still a learning curve as a freshman where Sophs. Jr’s seniors have gone through it. Locke is weird.
 
whatthe said:
He declared. That bounce is fantastic - he's a walking Nike commercial. Our defense would be superb but the offense would be a slight struggle. If he could develop he would be a dream come true.
View: https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1649054895109181451?cxt=HHwWlsDQ4ZSsz-ItAAAA
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Article confirms he developed as a guard, and it shows on the court. Apparently was only 5’11 when he was 16 to being 6’8 as an 18 year old now. Definition of a late bloomer and I love that.
 
whatthe said:
Locke is saying that the draft is inverted. There are lots of highly performing prospects (in terms of percentiles) in the 20's of the draft then in the beginning of the draft. It's a head scratcher why the market is mixing up the values of the players in regards to their performance and their projected draft order.

For instance, Leonard Miller is one of the best transistion players and he is projected in the late 20's. Or there are some shooters/scorers at the rim (Kobe?) who are also projected late.
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It's easy for any team to find players. The Jazz had more than 20 guys on their active roster this past season. The name of the game is to find Stars. The players at the top of the draft are the ones who are perceived to have the most star potential. They tend to be younger and less developed.

Shaedon Sharpe had no college stats whatsoever, got drafted at #7 and was a good pick for Portland.
 
KqWIN said:
Article confirms he developed as a guard, and it shows on the court. Apparently was only 5’11 when he was 16 to being 6’8 as an 18 year old now. Definition of a late bloomer and I love that.
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He was 6’-6” like 15 minutes ago… confirmed … he is the French Giannis. Will be close to 7’ by summer league.
 
whatthe said:
He declared. That bounce is fantastic - he's a walking Nike commercial. Our defense would be superb but the offense would be a slight struggle. If he could develop he would be a dream come true.
View: https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1649054895109181451?cxt=HHwWlsDQ4ZSsz-ItAAAA
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Wonder if there's any possible scenario where the Jazz get all 3 French wings.

Bilal at 9 (he seems to be the most likely to have a big rise)

Rupert at 16 (he's consistenly been inside most mocks in the 15-20 range).

Sidy at 28 (could be too late for him, but his draft position has been all over the place)
 
whatthe said:
Locke is saying that the draft is inverted. There are lots of highly performing prospects (in terms of percentiles) in the 20's of the draft then in the beginning of the draft. It's a head scratcher why the market is mixing up the values of the players in regards to their performance and their projected draft order.

For instance, Leonard Miller is one of the best transistion players and he is projected in the late 20's. Or there are some shooters/scorers at the rim (Kobe?) who are also projected late.
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i agree with him to an extent, but every draft is like that. OADs usually don't perform as well as a lot of second year guys and beyond. the get drafted higher based on what their perceived potential is. locke is hyper focused on production, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but he's ignoring the role potential plays into draft slot.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
It's not really that weird. This year's freshman class performed unusually poor.
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that is interesting. in comparison to past year's freshmen - in terms of overall classes, can we see some numbers? there are always going to be one offs like Brandon Miller being SEC player of the year, Marvin Bagley's dominance his frosh season, Zion, etc - but if overall as a class this year's group was worse it would be interesting to see those comparisons.
 
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