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2023 Trade Rumors and Gossip Involving the Jazz

cowhide said:
If Conley doesn't back rim the last shot against the Nuggets in game seven of the bubble year, all the hate would not be here. Giving up picks to get Conley was my issue because we were doing Memphis a favor by taking on his contract.
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Problem is they knew we wanted him and raked the jazz over the coals. And we didn’t have Danny at the time.
 
NUMBERICA said:
That's too rich for the Jazz. Heat probably wouldn't do it even if the Jazz straight absorbed Lowry.

I think Nunn is a valuable piece in specific circumstances. This would be one of them. Similarly, trading Nunn to GSW for GPII and their pick.
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Are you serious? He makes 29.7M and they are in cap hell with guys they need to re-sign.
 
Elizah Huge said:
I would take Lowry + 18 for Gay. Lowry is an expiring contract this upcoming season.

Miami will have the 3rd highest payroll in the league before re-signing Strus and Vincent if they don’t do anything.
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Interesting. Seems like a big price to pay for the Heat just to get off a single year of a contract for a player that is still helping them win important games. I would think it would have to be swapping 28 and 18 at least
 
The two Heat deals imo are Vic and 18 for 28 or a bigger price with Duncan… they have a short term issue but long term that Duncan deal will cause issues.

Hawks are the team with the biggest short and long term cap issues that I think we could take advantage of… gs and clips have tax issues but may opt to continue to pay it. Hawks have already shown they are willing to offload talent to avoid the tax.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Interesting. Seems like a big price to pay for the Heat just to get off a single year of a contract for a player that is still helping them win important games. I would think it would have to be swapping 28 and 18 at least
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We also don’t necessarily need a greater volume of draft picks this year.
 
So after processing the Porty rumors I think the guy to target is actually Simons. If Toronto doesn't send Pascal maybe they just make the pick. It sounds like Simons could be had at a fair price as they want a backcourt of Sharpe and Dame.

I've said I think we can get John Collins and 15 for KO and 28... If we were able to route Collins to Portland for Simons (Atlanta would not want Simons) I think it meets the roster shuffling requirements. We probably add something for Portland and maybe we can't get the pick swap. Looking at Simons though... I think that's a guy that could absolutely pop in the right situation. He is playing next to Dame for a pretty bad coach and has been efficient and productive. Put him as the lead guard with Lauri and Kessler and IDK maybe that's the next guy that has a major glow up. Maybe the better prize to target (and more realistic) is Simons.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
So after processing the Porty rumors I think the guy to target is actually Simons. If Toronto doesn't send Pascal maybe they just make the pick. It sounds like Simons could be had at a fair price as they want a backcourt of Sharpe and Dame.

I've said I think we can get John Collins and 15 for KO and 28... If we were able to route Collins to Portland for Simons (Atlanta would not want Simons) I think it meets the roster shuffling requirements. We probably add something for Portland and maybe we can't get the pick swap. Looking at Simons though... I think that's a guy that could absolutely pop in the right situation. He is playing next to Dame for a pretty bad coach and has been efficient and productive. Put him as the lead guard with Lauri and Kessler and IDK maybe that's the next guy that has a major glow up. Maybe the better prize to target (and more realistic) is Simons.
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At some point I really believe we need to grab a blue-chipper from seed, but rack up enough big moneyball wins and maybe you can parlay them into that.

That being said, I’m not a big Simons guy but that is a totally from-the-hip assessment.
 
NUMBERICA said:
At some point I really believe we need to grab a blue-chipper from seed, but rack up enough big moneyball wins and maybe you can parlay them into that.

That being said, I’m not a big Simons guy but that is a totally from-the-hip assessment.
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I like him but there is a chance he’s a 6-3.5. SG (massive 6-9 wingspan) and those types are best used as 6th men. But he’s outgrown that role. He could move to a pg in a different situation and that might change some things for him. If you landed Anthony Black it might be a good mix. The age, production, and fact pattern around him may hint there is more there to uncover.

We need some blue chip talent too… need a few big hits in the draft.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Simons is a discount Mitchell with worse defense. Pass
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Discount Don with worse defense plus #15 for KO and #28 is a no from Cy… got it.

That’s fine… I just think he’s a guy that in a year you look back and he’s a most improved candidate cuz he had some natural growth in his game and found a situation that is better for him.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Discount Don with worse defense plus #15 for KO and #28 is a no from Cy… got it.

That’s fine… I just think he’s a guy that in a year you look back and he’s a most improved candidate cuz he had some natural growth in his game and found a situation that is better for him.
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He will never be a most improved candidate because his stats are already high.
 
Portland seems to be desperate for wings and wants an 'elite' SF. BRK says they're not interested in trading Mikal Bridges. Not sure where Toronto stands with OG Anunoby.

I could see Chicago hitting a reset button and being willing to move DeRozan.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Portland seems to be desperate for wings and wants an 'elite' SF. BRK says they're not interested in trading Mikal Bridges. Not sure where Toronto stands with OG Anunoby.

I could see Chicago hitting a reset button and being willing to move DeRozan.
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Derozan ain’t the kinda wing they need doe.
 
Elizah Huge said:
I would take Lowry + 18 for Gay. Lowry is an expiring contract this upcoming season.

Miami will have the 3rd highest payroll in the league before re-signing Strus and Vincent if they don’t do anything.
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Why wouldn't they just waive Lowry and keep their pick?
 
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