Utes 2011 Football Discussion

[bordelais7]

Uh...there are no ties in college football, right? If a team loses, they don't win. If they win, they don't lose. Predicting < 3 losses is the same as predicting > 9 wins.

Again, Utah would only have to win 1 game for you to win the bet, even though you predicted they'd WIN 10+.

No, no, no. He never said that.

He can't see them losing more than two. HOWEVER, he apparently CAN see them winning less than 10. Simple.

 

[SaltyDawg]

From what I'm seeing, it's a simple o/u bet. Salty's initial post predicted no more than 2 losses, setting the number at 10. Offers of wagers were made for the under but rather than making it an o/u, Salty changed it to specific games, challenging the person to pick 3 specific Utah losses. Am I missing anything?

When I bet an o/u on team wins in Vegas/Wendover, I don't have to pick the wins/losses, just bet against the number. Why is this so difficult? As a Ute fan, I like Salty's optimism. I just wish that he'd either stop making bold proclamations or go ahead and take a bet when called.

It's not just a simple O/U bet. It kind of is, but it's really more about am I a homer, or am I falsely labeled as being a homer by a bunch of haters who have no idea what they're talking about? The point was, if you think they will lose more than 3 games, here is the schedule, show me how I'm wrong.

Uh...there are no ties in college football, right? If a team loses, they don't win. If they win, they don't lose. Predicting < 3 losses is the same as predicting > 9 wins.

Again, Utah would only have to win 1 game for you to win the bet, even though you predicted they'd WIN 10+.

See, now you're just playing semantics. So as long s we're playing semantics, them picking 3 losses is not any different than me picking 10 wins. Either way, we're betting on the same thing.

Now, just to clear this up, here is my initial post on it:

All jokes aside, looking at that schedule I don't see how Utah loses more than 2 regular season games (if that). And if the offense gets itself together, Utah has a real shot at going undefeated next season (at least in the regular season). It's pretty early and all, but I bet even the haters will find a hard time going on record and predicting more than 2 of these games as losses:

I took out the unrelated parts, and the actual schedule, in the name of space. But as you can see, my only real "prediction" was that the haters would have a hard time picking more than 2 losses out of that schedule. Obviously, I was correct.

 

[bordelais7]

So as long s we're playing semantics, them picking 3 losses is not any different than me picking 10 wins. Either way, we're betting on the same thing.

Challenge accepted. Pick your 10 wins and name your price.

 

[SaltyDawg]

No, no, no. He never said that.

He can't see them losing more than two. HOWEVER, he apparently CAN see them winning less than 10. Simple.

No, I'm just pointing out that for all the crap you talk, you really don't know what you're talking about. Either that or you really believe the Utes are better than you let on. You can't even pick 3 losses when looking at their Pac 12 schedule.

 

[Scat]

But as you can see, my only real "prediction" was that the haters would have a hard time picking more than 2 losses out of that schedule. Obviously, I was correct.

Let's take another route here. Pick your two losses. We can extrapolate from there who you think the 10 wins will be against.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Challenge accepted. Pick your 10 wins and name your price.

I'll pick my 10 Utah wins right after you pick your 10 BYU wins.

 

[GVC]

It's not just a simple O/U bet. It kind of is, but it's really more about am I a homer, or am I falsely labeled as being a homer by a bunch of haters who have no idea what they're talking about?

I checked, and since your prediction, only one person has been called a homer...it was scat, a BYU fan. You're talking out your *** again. The only thing people have challenged you on is your actual prediction, which was a simple O/U.

Again, you made a simple O/U prediction, but then you offered a bet that fell WAY short of that prediction. 1 =/= 10, last I checked.

 

[bordelais7]

I'll pick my 10 Utah wins right after you pick your 10 BYU wins.

Why would I do that? I'm not confident that BYU will win 10. And it's completely unrelated to the topic at hand.

But you knew that.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Let's take another route here. Pick your two losses. We can extrapolate from there who you think the 10 wins will be against.

I'm not entirely sure Utah has 2 losses next year. Like I said earlier, we can revisit that after I know what is going to happen with the offense. I'm quite sure Utah will have the best defense in the Pac 12 though, and if the offense is at least average (or better), 2 losses might even be too many. We need to see who they hire for an OC, what formations they plan to run, if anyone tries to go to the NFL, are the QBs any good, etc.

 

[Scat]

Arguing logic with Salty would make even a Vulcan want to slit their wrists.

 

[Scat]

I'm not entirely sure Utah has 2 losses next year. Like I said earlier, we can revisit that after I know what is going to happen with the offense. I'm quite sure Utah will have the best defense in the Pac 12 though, and if the offense is at least average (or better), 2 losses might even be too many. We need to see who they hire for an OC, what formations they plan to run, if anyone tries to go to the NFL, are the QBs any good, etc.

You would make an awesome DB. You back-pedal with the best of them.

 

[bordelais7]

Arguing logic with Salty would make even a Vulcan want to slit their wrists.

I give him full marks for stubborn persistence and unparalleled creativity, however. If the Ute defense can frustrate opponents the way he frustrates reality, I don't think it would be far-fetched to predict a national championship.